Election 2020

[Eric the Green]

(10-29-2020, 01:34 PM)Isoko Wrote: Eric, 

If I'm going to be honest with you, America itself needs to settle on some kind of new centrism that appeals to all segments of the population. Right now, it is way too politically divided that I actually think a future secession would be better for the country to heal. 

I think if the country did separate into red and blue and went their own way, it would be better in the long run. The blue could focus on more progressive values and establishing programmes that need to be done. 

The red can live in ye olde America and be content. Maybe later on they could unite again when their political differences are solved. But I must confess, I do get a very good light if the country does break up. 

America is sort of where the Soviet Union was in the 1980s. I would class the Baltic stated, Ukraine etc as Blue and Russia, Belarus and the Central Asian countries as Red. What is interesting is that originally, those red areas wanted to keep the Soviet Union alive and regretted its passing. The blue wanted it gone for good. 

Now the red want to join the blue and get rid of the Soviet system for good, which was unthinkable at one point. So maybe the same with happen to the reds in America.

Yes, those of us on the blue side see little or nothing in common with those on the red side in the USA today. But this has happened before, as during the blue vs. the gray in the civil war. And divisions occurred during the New Deal years and during the Revolution as well. The progressive side won and established a new consensus afterward. During the 4T, there was no compromise, but after the more progressive side won, it established itself as the new nation, and at the same time a more moderate or conservative period followed in the first turning, and the nation muddled onward as one. I expect much the same this time, and as you say, the USA may split up for a time as during the civil war and come back together again later. But for most Americans, this still seems a drastic solution, so it may not happen.

A nation dies if it does not progress, however. Stagnation and decline has been our lot for 40 years. Progress must begin again, after all that time, or the nation and maybe the world will die. Centrism can come back later on.