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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
I've only started learning about the Strauss-Howe generational theory but after reading what I've seen in this thread, here's what I might alternatively consider as the years corresponding to the turnings:

1st Turning: 1945 - 1968.  Begins with the end of WW2, ends with the death of MLK and the peak of the Civil Rights movement.

2nd Turning: 1968 - 1989.  Begins with the death of MLK and ends with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

3rd Turning: 1989 - 2016.  Begins with the fall of the Berlin Wall, ends with the election of Donald Trump.

4th Turning: 2016 - ?

Keep in mind that lifespans have increased substantially in the 20th and 21st centuries so this cycle will likely be longer.

Obviously, the end of a turning can only be determined in hindsight.  If we get 4 more years of Trump or if Biden ends up being a dud, I'd be more inclined to accept the alternative timeline I've proposed.  Otherwise if the whole nation unites under Biden (can't see Trump doing that) to combat covid, reverse the declining middle class, reassert itself against China and Russia in effective ways, etc., then I'd be more apt to go with Howe's timeline with the 4T starting in 2008 and ending some time in the middle of this decade.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by ragnarkar - 10-29-2020, 05:09 PM

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