Election 2020

[Eric the Green]

(11-09-2020, 01:40 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-05-2020, 11:37 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(11-05-2020, 12:37 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: It is said that many on both sides said that the other side is unacceptable and horrific if they win. It seems, if Biden wins, that the result was that the stalemate continues. The world burns, the oceans rise, droughts wipe out millions, world insecurity grows, inequality and poverty grows, health care reform is destroyed, the national debt balloons, gun massacres and police killings continue, etc., all because of two people in the senate, and because people in some red and purple states re-elected McConnell. Can this really be called such an historic election, then? It could have been, but the result of it all will be business as usual.

It's hard to see how this plays, other than badly, of course.  McConnell is already working hard to align his caucus against Biden or for Trump, the needs of the country be damned.  Of course, Biden is being his conciliatory self, promising cooperation with people who see that as weakness.  McConnell is already vowing to stop all his cabinet picks unless the GOP approves of them, and that would never be tolerated in reverse.

If I was Biden, and had the authority, the first attempt at this kind of thing would be met with the pledge to close Fort Campbell.  The second, Fort Knox.  If it has to be hardball, play your strongest pitcher.

So, what are the needs of the country right now? Does anyone on the Left know what the country wants or needs these days? Does it need more illegal immigrants or more Chinese manufactured goods or higher priced gasoline and electricity or higher taxes or more welfare programs or less police or less military or more affirmative action? I sure hope Biden and what's left of the Democrats are as Godly as they come across and the media makes them out to be for your sake

Yeah, we do know what the country wants or needs

Thanks for the opening to spell it out a little bit, again. It's good practice, I hope.

Illegal immigrants are OK. Our side would prefer a more sane approach, like the bipartisan bill that Marco Rubio co-sponsored but was scuttled by your Tea Party House a few years ago. Sure, we'd prefer an orderly and legal admissions policy for immigrants. But crossing the border illegally is not a felony and it's not such a big deal as you make out. Under Biden DACA will be restored and children brought here by their parents can become citizens. Those who are illegal, if the bill passes, will pay a fine and get educated and work and pay their taxes and then can become legal citizens or residents. I hope we won't have to tear down the statue of liberty as your side would do if it were honest about its intentions. Under trumpism the USA does not welcome the poor and huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

Our side is not against tariffs on China and never was. Maybe our president was, but that's too bad. Most Democrats support labor unlike most Republicans, and we want fair trade too. We just don't want to be awkward dufuses like Trump is in going about it.

Once our energy transition is ramped up, prices for gasoline will plummet because of the lower demand and you backward types can buy gas cheaply. Of course there will be fewer gas-running new cars on the market, so just keep your gas guzzler in good shape. Similarly, solar and wind is cheaper in the long run; it's just that your side doesn't know what "the long run" means and can't even see beyond your nose.

Higher taxes on the wealthy and more welfare programs? Yes, if we can get them, we do need those. They protect everybody and would move our country away from its current trajectory toward a banana republic ruled by a few rich tycoons for their own benefit. Less police? At least less police having to do the work that social and health care workers can do so much better than violent racists with guns in blue uniforms can do. And less waste on military we don't need like Trump wastes money on. Trump doesn't like war, he says, but building the military too much eventually means we go to war. It always has and always will.