Election 2020

[Bob Butler 54]

(12-12-2020, 06:02 PM)CH86 Wrote:

(12-12-2020, 05:43 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: The question is what the conservative opponents of Donald Trump do. Maybe they take over an existing Third Party (Reform? Constitution?) or form their own. Maybe they take over weak Democratic Parties in some states (let us say Oklahoma) and offer some different, more coherent, form of conservatism as an alternative.   

Democracy needs a contest between viable liberal or social-democratic parties and a viable conservatism, both of which have principles higher than 'sticking it' to their opposition. Much of the problem is that the conservative side of the American political system has installed power above principle and service. That must change. It may be the 2024 election makes that clear.

But the Reason the conservatives are stubbornly trying to block the results isn't because of some unreasonable conservative opposition to democracy, But because the liberal side is forcing through radical SJWs as their nominees. Trump would have had no problem conceding if Bernie/Tulsi had won the primary and subsequently won the election. However the DNC cheated in order to force feed their "Culture Wars" candidate and made their intentions crystal clear by making the most prominent advocates of SJW authoritarian "Liberalism" their VP choice. Why do you think there was such intense opposition to her candidacy throughout the 2020 primary and veepstakes, and intense opposition to Hillary's campaign in 2016 for that matter. The So-called "moderate" democrats are clearly the real radicals and that has been clear for the last 5 years.

I note you are grumbling about social warriors and culture wars rather than pointing at the newer protests about racism.  I see especially social warriors as being the conservative code word for the liberal side of fighting racism from back when racism was kept subtle.  As a blue person, I would as soon see the racists hit by another set of laws cutting white privilege and resulting in no need to restart the protests when the weather turns warm again.  Mabe in another two or four turnings we might do another round.  While I'm not into the SJW scene - I have other issues I am more concerned with - seeing people advocate for racist interactions is problematic.

I don't see Trumps scam to collect money, his legal farcial lawsuits, his counter inaugural programming, as having anything to do with racism.  That is just Trump being Trump.  He just wants money and publicity.  He wants to make trouble for his perceived enemies.  Charming guy.