Election 2020

[Classic-Xer]

(12-15-2020, 03:40 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(12-15-2020, 02:04 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Well, unfortunately, their decision to ignore/dismiss with without taking time and looking at all the merits of their case will turn out to be the biggest mistake the Supreme Court  ever made as a group. We're 4T, elitist judges shouldn't  do arrogant/dismissive shit like that during 4T's. The court is chicken out, not all of it, just the one who makes the decisions for the court. However, the merits of the case over all will be taken up by it after Biden is in office. Like I said, if the government wants to keep its job and keep its revenues (payroll) and whatever power it was given long ago  then the government is going to have to address it's serious lack of integrity and loss of support by most of it's people these days. Like I said, pulling the plug on arrogance and washing our hands of it isn't going to be all that hard to do with an unpopular, weak and mainly delusional, disoriented and dysfunctional government in power.

As I've said before, the best conservative judges are the ones that look at the meaning of the text and consider the intent of the authors.  The worst are those that believe in the political agenda of he who appointed them, and try to find a way to twist the law to implement that agenda.

Trump clearly didn't appoint judges with loyalty to he who appointed him in mind.  He instead went to a think tank who gave him names to appoint.  On what criteria?  Those appointed passed the handling of the election test at least.  I for one am not in a big hurry to do something about them until and unless they make more twisted opinions.

You are characterizing the Democrats as incompetent, while I am characterizing the Republicans as being unwilling to address the crisis problems.  We'll see who is right.  Historically, the regenerated crisis government is focused and strong for as long as it takes to solve the crisis problems.  Back in the 'Caesar' discussions we considered the advantages and disadvantage of strong man autocratic rule.  Some conservatives were all in favor of autocrats.  I thought that a strong government best during the crisis and ever weaker after was for the best.  Still do.

We'll see if the idea of strong Ceasar style government in the crisis goes beyond naming competent professionals to the cabinet level posts.  Trump's appointing for loyalty or nepotism sure didn't work.

Over on the Generational Dynamics threat, I again repeated that people will cling to their ideology above seeing reality most times.  It takes a really catastrophic event before people will reconsider and change.  Think Hiroshima.

I remember a story about a camp full of American POWs stuck in Japan.  As you have likely read, [understatement] the Japanese at that time did not treat prisoners well. [/understatement]  As the allies after the surrender were in no hurry to liberate them from their perspective, they liberated themselves.  They 'borrowed' a train, and headed to Tokyo, where the allies were known to have come ashore.

On the way to Tokyo, the POWs passed a Japanese city, or the ruins of a Japanese city.  Ashes, apparently.  The B 29s had done their work thoroughly.  Cheers.  Applause.  Celebration.  They passed a second such city.  Ashes.  Ruins.  Death.  Cheers.  Celebration.  They passed a third such city.  Silence.  Thoughtfulness.

It takes that much destruction to make someone think, to make someone committed to tribal thinking change.  Just as the Japanese during the war faced death and destruction in massive amounts before they changed their culture, I see you and so many others facing the ravages of COVID, the massive protests against murder and systematic racism, the ruined economy, the damage done by the changing climate, and no big surprise the degree of disaster has not reached a sufficient enough level to change the way of thinking.  The crisis has not yet reached sufficient destructiveness to change the culture yet.  Hospitals full nationwide with the curves going up, maybe we can get to that point.

Maybe.

Wake up.  A crisis is a time when a culture faces certain problems which cause death, destruction and mayhem.  The major problems are solved.  Whatever it takes.  Roll up your sleeve and get to work.  Ruthlessness is forgiven.  Not doing your utmost is not.

Trump came in as in outsider with a rag tag team of non-establishment people and very limited support from the GOP establishment. Well, how many blue cities being pilfered and more of less run into the ground will it take for people to figure out the Democratic party isn't good anymore? The good people of Minneapolis watched in horror as their city descended into chaos and violence and destruction but that didn't change the way they voted in November or change the Democratic representatives of their districts or the Democratic Senate in Washington DC. One must scratch their head and ask what's wrong with the Democratic party and the people who support it today? So, what's it going to take to change what's wrong with Democratic party and its obvious lack of support for traditional values and the poor choices/decisions/arguments that the Democratic party continues to make these days? So, how much death, destruction and mayhem is the Democratic party willing to inflict, watch, accept and indirectly support in order to remain in power and protect themselves from the law by changing the laws in their favor these days. War is hell Bob and we all understand that and should do whatever we can to prevent it. The Democrats are running on old laurels and taking advantage of tradition and more or less placing their careers and lives on the line and will soon be dancing and celebrating their hollow victory on top of a time bomb.