03-14-2021, 10:58 AM
(03-12-2021, 06:37 AM)Captain Genet Wrote:(03-02-2021, 11:23 AM)David Horn Wrote:(03-02-2021, 09:50 AM)Captain Genet Wrote: For me "idealist" means a person who is driven by a desire for nobler life, not driven by either carnal pleasure, acquisitive impulses, or glorification of one's tribe. Is Trump an idealist? No, he only cares for money, power and sex. Were hippies idealists? Some people might suppose they were, but a life of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll deserves to be called hedonism, not idealism.
"Ideal" is in the eye of the beholder. Your ideal and mine are certainly different, and we're not even at the extremes. Einzige and newvoter probably agree that air is breathable and water is necessary for life. Beyond that, their paths diverge dramatically. Neither could be happy, or even tolerate, living inside the others ideal.
There is a growing moral consensus. In a civilized society, practices like human sacrifice, torture and forced marriage are banned. Neither Einzige nor Classic Xer are likely to support them.
I was being facetious, but it's informative that you had to reach that far from normality to find other suitable examples.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.