03-14-2021, 12:41 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-14-2021, 12:47 PM by Eric the Green.)
(03-14-2021, 06:08 AM)Captain Genet Wrote: Non-violence is a beautiful vision, but it can work only if literally everyone agrees with it. So the sort of idealism which calls for defunding the police and ending all military interventions right now is simply not viable. The idealism of a knight who dreams of defeating the hordes is a necessity.
Thanks for your reply.
About non-violence, I think Bob Butler had a good approach in saying that non-violence works in countries where the powers that be have some conscience. So yes, it can work in those societies, and does. But against dedicated tyrants like the Nazis or Assad or the Myanmar regime, it usually does not. It always works best if the military defects and joins the people.
"Defund the police" is an unfortunate slogan adopted by black lives matter. As usually misunderstood, it has nothing to do necessarily with idealism or John Lennon. What the slogan points to is that under Reaganomics (the 40-year trend still in effect), funding for social work and mental health has been cut, and those functions have been left to the police. Re-allocation is a more accurate term for what is being proposed, which is reasonable and necessary, and that is to shift funding from those police who have assumed the function of social and health workers to fund social and health workers.
Quote:I have the impression you misrepresent me as a person who is opposed to sex, which is simply false. Sex between people who love each other is creative, motivating and vitalizing. People who abstain from all sex, like Catholic priests, have usually quite warped personalities. Casual sex is another issue. It's normal for young people to give in to their new desires, but mature married people who cheat on their spouses because they no longer get the thrills in bed, usually end up breaking the family, which harms their children. Even young people, if casual sex becomes too easy, may be discouraged from pursuing a serious relationship, like many Millennials did. That's why I'm skeptical of the sexual revolution.
Proper ethical and moral concern and consideration like the golden rule applies here. For some "cheating" is simply a more inclusive way of relating, but for others it is too emotionally difficult. People just need to know what their own interests and feelings are, and those of their family and relationships. I also think those who are not interested in a family have their priorities as well, which are just as valid. Myself I have been open to the idea, but I have tended to shy away from it, as for me family (the "nuclear family") was an oppressive, limiting and boring way of life, and it had nothing like real love within it except between the two parents, which itself was rarely demonstrated.
Quote:I won't risk using drugs, and addicts are a scourge for society. But maybe in my lifetime there will be virtual reality equipment allowing to experience fantasy realms as if they were real. That would have the benefits of a psychedelic vision without its perils.People need to know their limits. I don't use psychedelics either. For some, it is a gateway to a greater reality, as well as opening the imagination. Difference in worldviews there.
Quote:100% agreement here. I find 2T music boring, but I love 3T music, and it wouldn't exist without the cultural context of the Millennial saeculum.Well, not quite 100%. I guess I would move that up a turning, but otherwise I agree.
Quote:Nomads tend to be cultural rebels, Lost had flappers and Xers had punks and metalheads. But they not likely to be very political, unlike both Prophets and Civics.
I would call nomads "experimenters with forms," which is how S&H describe them. Every young generation these days tends to have its own cultural rebels and experimenters in their own style. The nomad counter-culture was different from that of the prophets and silents, and no more rebellious than the others. Maybe the civics are least prone to this cultural counter-trend, but they kick up their heels too. The young GIs were big jazz buffs and their dancing was spectacular, for example. The Millennials seem open to everything that has gone before, depending on the millennial individual. Many of them, however, seem content with a superficial and bland popular culture, and by the 1950s, at least, the same was true of many GIs and Silents.