06-16-2021, 03:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-16-2021, 03:02 PM by Eric the Green.)
(06-16-2021, 01:51 PM)Dustinw5220 Wrote:(06-15-2021, 02:15 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(06-15-2021, 06:29 AM)Captain Genet Wrote: If the 4T drags on till 2030, it's likely that end date for millennials will be about 2010.
Wikipedia defines generation alpha as 2010-25, this looks like preliminary dates for new artists. Millennials and Pew's Z are just two waves of civics. At least according to my idea that coming of age is more important than early childhood.
"Millennials and Pew's Z are just two waves of civics." Exactly. Gen Z arrived in circa 2003-04. Generation Alpha will start arriving soon, about 2025.
If the 4T drags on until 2030, the Alpha Generation will have arrived right on time.
The schedule is right on time. IMO no adjustment to your generation set is necessary. The saeculum is in control.
I agree with just about all of this, 2025 seems like the perfect time for the new Prophets/Idealists (or more specifically, Generation Alpha) to arrive, especially if the parallels to the Civil War are accurate. I know you sometimes criticized S&H's tendency to always start a new generation RIGHT on the cusp of a new year, frankly I also always found that somewhat suspect myself (but otherwise, I mostly agree with their dates). When would you say the new Artists/Adaptives (or the oldest members of Gen Z) officially arrived, 2003 or 2004 (and, yeah I know the date S&H gave was 2005)? Would you say 2003-2025 would be the most accurate birth years for the new Artists/Adaptives?
Also (based on the years you gave for the turnings in the next saeculum), when will the new Nomads/Reactives, Heroes/Civics, and Artists/Civics arrive (not Gen Z, but the ones after that), and if the (current) new Artists/Adaptives are Gen Z and the new Prophets/Idealists are Generation Alpha, what might those generations be called?
Those are good questions, to be answered by future generations. Myself I would say 2003 is the start date for Gen Z, but I think Mr. Howe says 2004. The next generations after Alpha, which will be starting in 2025, should follow the pattern of starting about 3-5 years before the next turning. In my 1997 book I postulated that after Gen X, generations would be called by their letters, so if that holds, as it has so far at least partially, then if the next Awakening starts in 2047, then the next nomad Generation, Gen Beta or Gen B, should start around 2044. Since dominant generations start within a year or two of when Neptune enters a cardinal sign, then the next civic generation, Generation C for civic, should start around 2065, when Neptune enters Cancer (that's another C too). The next 3T will probably start closely after that and last until about 2090.