07-02-2021, 10:48 AM
(07-01-2021, 05:45 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(06-30-2021, 10:11 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:(06-30-2021, 11:22 AM)David Horn Wrote:(06-29-2021, 07:27 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: If the majority is going to be atheistic, I don't see why someone religious would marry an atheist or agnostic, date them, or be close friends. I think a "safe space" is justified because we are the minority and the majority persecutes us especially online. Until the culture becomes less hostile towards religion, we need safe spaces to survive and our own clubs and groups.
The most persecuted group in the religious sphere are still the atheists. Show me even one elected official or sitting judge who is a declared atheist.
Most politicians are Boomers or older Gen X. In anyone under 40, the persecuted people are the religious.
I see some truth in this. The Millennial Generation has largely drifted away from religion, and embraced allegedly scientific worldviews like that promoted by such figures and Neil DeGrasse Tyson, while many in the older generations still cling to religion and try to impose it on all of us, and they persecute atheists and support conservative politics to do it. On the other hand, we see on wikipedia, staffed largely by millennials, a culture that denies and suppresses the paranormal, and tends toward the agnostic. I don't know to what extent this indicates that there is "persecution" of religion by young people, but then I am probably not in the online forums that Aspie is in, so I can't reply to him about it. But if so, it is natural for religious and also spiritual-but-not-religious people to find forums where they are more supported. However, if such groups tend to ape the ways and dogmas of older conservative religious people, and/or promote today's delusive conservative politics, then such groups are not worth being a part of, and whether its members know it or not, they are being stifled and oppressed. And critics of such groups are really liberators, not persecutors. It all depends.
If this wasn't happening, I would be shocked. We've had decades of intense religiosity -- mostly from the Christian Right, but a lot of New Age stuff too. If we have no other beliefs we all share on this forum, the cyclic nature of history is at the core. By no means does that support the argument that Christians are being persecuted. Losing their vaunted status as the default belief doesn't qualify.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.