(09-22-2016, 04:15 AM)taramarie Wrote:(09-22-2016, 03:57 AM)Galen Wrote:Well I will not judge all boomers for that. I have met some who are very rational and not as blindly idealistic as some seem to be. My thoughts on ideals is that they are fantastic ONLY when realistically achievable. Also I am not favourable of the attitudes of some early boomers who I have met who seem to be the most unrealistic and idealistic who think they have planned out the perfect society for us all and wonder why it will not work when told so even though they are getting hate from all sides. Calmly telling them why it will not work does not seem to work either. It boggles the mind. An ideal should be agreed on by the people and it should be a realistic ideal that the majority agree on and it will only happen when nations are in dire straits. When there is no other option. A rational ideal. I have no patience for childish fantasies that could potentially destroy the economy and the lives of many. Which is why I am not pleased with our govt pushing to increase the amount of refugees into the country. We have enough kiwis struggling let alone letting more in atm. All for the ideal. What about fixing our problems before letting more in! What about us? It is nice and all but this is the worst time for NZ to be letting them in at the moment. I do not think building a wall will keep them out lol. Keeping Muslims out will be near damn impossible. Though many are tightening up on how many people come into the country now. Including NZ. People are furious that both National and Labour (right and left wing main parties) are letting them in. NZ First has been dubbed by some Americans as the rational Trump of NZ. Winston Peters is in a few ways similar but in other ways VERY progressive. Other ways very conservative. But the key is in the name of the party to understanding what he is all about. When times are hard naturally people want to take care of their own first.(09-22-2016, 03:18 AM)taramarie Wrote: Their leaders however do not know how to run a logical political system. I hear you on having a back up system. I only learned that skill though a few years ago sadly. Reason being that those boomers did not prepare me for what was out there. Being heavily coddled did not help me either. I could not help the way I was raised though. It was a great big knock in the teeth. Especially with the great recession and the earthquakes which have devastated the whole city and some suburbs are now condemned. They are now country side. It has been rough but I have learned gratefully and marched on looking at the positives and blessings along the way.
They have all of the hubris of the GIs with none of the competence. The Millies are going to learn many things the hard way because of that. With Millies all I have to do in most cases is let life kick the shit out of them for a few years and then its real easy to get them to wise up.
The next leg down on the Great Recession looks like it will be getting underway shortly because I think the central banks are losing control. Having half of the Middle East showing up in Europe is pissing off the Germans and the French which historically tends not to end well. The British have already decided they have had enough and are working on a wall to keep migrants out. Come to think of it, the the Swedes appear to be getting in touch with their inner Viking. The migrants had better start behaving themselves before the Germans start getting in touch with their inner Nazi. Clearly the Germans have lost patience with Merkel.
I don't have to check with the stars to know that Europe will probably close its borders or suffer unrest of the likes they haven't seen in a very long time. You might want to look at other times large numbers of military age Muslims have showed up. It could be a replay of the crusades and they just might ask Putin for help in dealing with the problem.
I have been playing the odds on Boomers for a long time and I am usually right about what I am dealing with. You are not wrong about there being exceptions but I don't count on them.
Muslims have been kept out before but the methods have tended to be pretty violent with the survivors taking the hint and going somewhere else. This usually happens after years and sometimes centuries of provocations. Check out the history of the Crusades for a more complete description.
Naturally, I would prefer not to see this occur but the possibility can not be ignored. Always plan for the worst and then be glad when it doesn't happen.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises