Astrology and science

[Eric the Green]

(01-03-2022, 04:14 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Astrology does not get academic respect. Obviously the trashy predictions in mass-circulation media are garbage unworthy of attention. "This might be a good day to plan that long-needed, life-expanding  

If astrology has any validity it is as a timing mechanism. We all know about the daily cycle related to the Earth spinning on its axis with comparatively-cold nights and warm days and the annual cycle of the seasons. Where I live in a Dfa climate summers are tropical and winters are polar., and the plant growth and agriculture fit it well. Winter blizzards shield the soil moisture that seedlings will need in the spring, with snowmelt giving copious water to thirsty plants as temperatures rise. The revolution of the moon around the Earth creates the tides which may have created the tidal zones in which the widest variety of life evolved. Tides may have made evolution possible, and large tides are impossible without the moon. I have no idea of what cycles I would associate with Mercury, Venus, or Mars orbits, but Jupiter spends roughly one year per zodiac constellation (well, technically the "right leg" of Ophiuchus does wade into the zodiac, the ecliptic passes close enough to corners of Cetus and Orion that the southern part of the sun can be in Cetus or Orion. The Chinese zodiac fits one year of Jupiter to each constellation of the Chinese zodiac.  

The Jupiter orbit corresponds with the numeric grades of K-12 education in the USA. Three orbits of Saturn  (29.46 X 3 = 88.38 years) or one of Uranus (roughly 84 years), or half the 164.8-year orbit of Neptune  is roughly a long human life. One orbit of Saturn is enough for starting a fully-professional career as a physician or attorney after birth, and it is safe to say that most physicians and attorneys had very carefully-guided childhoods.  It's all coincidence, it would seem.

Cycles are important in business. I remember seeing a graph that recognized 19-year cycles of prosperity, crashes, depressions, and recoveries from 1969 that had nadirs in 1932, 1951, and 1969 (fairly accurate) with forthcoming nadirs in 1987 and 2008. One of the biggest one-day falls in the valuation of stocks was experienced in 1987 for reasons that nobody fully understands.  The market crashes of 1930 (the real crash was in 1930) and 2008 are 78 years apart in two different starts of a Crisis Era.

That's right. The interesting thing is that not only astrology, but cycles in general, such as the generations theory, are not respectable in academic circles. But you are correct, in the real world (such as business), some people pay attention. That business cycle also roughly corresponds to the 20-year Jupiter-Saturn mutual cycle (in that case the opposition half-way through the cycle) that also timed presidents who got elected in zero years (during conjunctions) and could not survive in office. But that pattern seems to have been broken now, although some consider that Biden could be vulnerable to this because of his age. But Kamala Harris in my estimation is not likely to become president. Jupiter conjunct Saturn has often indicated a very evident shift in the affairs and priorities of our politics and government, as well as in our economy. We just had one a year ago, after which Biden was elected, and his build back better is still on the table.

It's more than coincidence involved, and much more than gravity, which cannot explain how the planets time particular cycles and meanings. It's true that the cycles of Jupiter through Pluto do intersect and reinforce each other, and time the phases of our lives. It's not just Uranus or Saturn, but also Neptune, as you point out (2x Uranus) and Pluto too (3x Uranus), that time the saeculum. The planets are arranged in patterns that are remarkable. It's not gravity doing all this, but something ordinary physics does not understand. Physical science does not explain everything; there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in that philosophy, is the point. But quantum physics does point the way. Everything is connected and "entangled." Regardless of the apparent distance-- and to the smog-free and nightime lights-free ancients the planets seemed much more real and closer-- our solar system is one great being and its parts resonate with each other.

Venus is the "planet of love," not just because of its heat, but because of the amazing pattern of its relationship to the Earth and Sun. It traces a five-pointed star, and fibonacci numbers. This pattern, and also the relationship of Sun, Moon and Earth, reveal the sacred number 108.