05-02-2019, 07:05 AM
(05-02-2019, 03:31 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:Quote:A movement exists for states assigning their electoral votes in accordance with the national popular vote.
There have been movements to destroy or otherwise manipulate the electoral college since 1800. All of them have failed, and failed with good reason. Their "solutions" would ultimately destroy the republic.
Quote:The other efforts failed because they require a Constitutional amendment. Some states might want power over the Presidency (again, it is the States and not the people who elect the President -- and 2016 was a freak unlikely to be replicated.
Quote:Quote:One more Donald Trump who wins the Electoral College despite losing the plurality of the popular vote by about 2% and being a sick joke as President will make such possible.
I doubt that. However, for the sake of argument lets suppose you are right on this (I'll call it playing devil's advocate). That means then that because of the three largest cities are in three blue states that a civil war will become inevitable because on the national level the smaller states will have no chance at representation. What will be the inevitable result of this? New York, Chicago and LA will be crushed because those smaller, rural states control the food and resource production.
...and we end up with a political system that dies much as the Soviet Union did -- as a country with a brain drain that becomes technologically backward, in which crony capitalism makes the formation of small business nearly impossible. That sort of order has a proclivity for starting wars that it loses, as is so of most fascist regimes.
Quote:If you really want to see the country rend itself apart I say go ahead.
Such will happen after I am dead.
Quote:<snip> Polls </snip>
I've told you before I don't care about your polls. Here I'll let Styx explain why.
Quote: God-Emperor? You must be joking!
Trump's approval ratings are remarkably stable. Styx is saying things that are technically possible, but unlikely.
Quote:No actually I'm not. BTW, yeah people still don't care for Caligula..but Augustus is pretty popular to this day too. I will agree with you that Reagan was charismatic. Obama was a stuttering communist who managed to get elected twice because McCain selected someone unsuitable to be a 72 year old's heart beat away from the Presidency and Romney was just simply too weird to be President.
Obama got lucky in running against the two weakest GOP candidates in generations.
The three emperors that I showed were Nero, Caligula, and Commodus, prime examples of what is potentially dangerous about an Emperor who pays too much attention to his claims to divinity.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.