05-23-2020, 04:34 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-23-2020, 05:30 PM by Eric the Green.)
One thing for sure, I don't "get" rap. The Beastie Boys are rap. It looks like they throw in some interesting video stuff and samples with their raps and such, but no, I don't git it. I would not have gotten it any better if I had been born 20 or 30 years later, assuming I was born with the same inherited and environmental childhood traits and cultural background I was given, and could have been given at any time. Being shouted at does not appeal.
Rap seems to me part of the general rejection and anger at boomer and older cultures. But if people from younger generations want to find common ground with boomers like me, there are other places to look. The first place to look is here:
http://generational-theory.com/forum/thr...l#pid50898
I had a quarrel with teejay over this "great awakening" of the 1988-1995 period, more or less, since he used the fact of this later awakening era to say that Europe's 2T lasted from 1968 to 1989 or thereabouts, and stuck very stubbornly to this theory, and I rejected it. But that does not mean I rejected the actual awakening or creative outburst that occurred then, not at all. I was part of it. It just shows that not every such awakening occurs within the boundaries set by Strauss and Howe for "awakenings." In fact, as teejay confirmed by his description of this awakening as the "second summer of love," which many have called it, it was an echo of the earlier psychedelic and liberation era of the mid and late sixties. Awakenings as defined by S&H or by cultural historians reverberate in later years and are often revived and further developed in periods that are not explicitly second turnings. The modernist awakening at the turn of the 20th century certainly had its later expressions after 1908, for example. And the romantic movement straddled eras from the revolution 4T (mainly in Europe) through the transcendentalist era 2T in the USA and beyond.
Rap seems to me part of the general rejection and anger at boomer and older cultures. But if people from younger generations want to find common ground with boomers like me, there are other places to look. The first place to look is here:
http://generational-theory.com/forum/thr...l#pid50898
I had a quarrel with teejay over this "great awakening" of the 1988-1995 period, more or less, since he used the fact of this later awakening era to say that Europe's 2T lasted from 1968 to 1989 or thereabouts, and stuck very stubbornly to this theory, and I rejected it. But that does not mean I rejected the actual awakening or creative outburst that occurred then, not at all. I was part of it. It just shows that not every such awakening occurs within the boundaries set by Strauss and Howe for "awakenings." In fact, as teejay confirmed by his description of this awakening as the "second summer of love," which many have called it, it was an echo of the earlier psychedelic and liberation era of the mid and late sixties. Awakenings as defined by S&H or by cultural historians reverberate in later years and are often revived and further developed in periods that are not explicitly second turnings. The modernist awakening at the turn of the 20th century certainly had its later expressions after 1908, for example. And the romantic movement straddled eras from the revolution 4T (mainly in Europe) through the transcendentalist era 2T in the USA and beyond.