Election 2018

[Eric the Green]

(11-08-2018, 09:29 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(11-07-2018, 09:56 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-07-2018, 02:22 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: There was talk of a Calexit. I certainly would approve, but California voters although majority Democratic are not very adventurous; they can be bought on propositions sometimes, as was the case this year. Cautious voters would have to be very fed up to vote to leave the union, which is illegal in any event unless congress approves. I suspect that might be the case in other blue states.

If red state voters can tolerate what Trump has done so far, and vote to oust senators because they voted against an unfit creep rapist reactionary for the supreme court, I wonder what if anything could ever sway red voters to vote blue and vote for "real change." 

We have to realize just HOW backward and fascist a country we live in. It likely does not change anymore, and they can't be persuaded to vote for leftist candidates like Sanders or Tulsi, whether male or female. Not in our lifetimes, or in those of our generation's offspring at least. What a sorry lot we are. Truly pathetic. That's why opposition to any Democrat is foolhardy. A corrupt, moderate, corporate Democrat is the best we can ever hope for to get elected.

Hey, the liberal blues in Minnesota  seem to be able to tolerate racist a black male who seems to have a REAL ON GOING issue with roughing up and mistreating women. I guess it must be OK as long as their skin tone is the right skin tone and their liberal  views are the same and so forth. (redacted to remove offensive material) I can't wait to meet my worthless blue Senator, Ann Klobuchar some day and call her a hypocrite to her face. Some day you have to realize just how much advanced, how much more free, how much more financially independent and how much more forward moving the rest of the United States is becoming.

Leave that to the criminal justice system. As for Klobuchar, she could be the next President. I think she is very open about her agenda, and it will be a wholesome contrast to Trump.

Your dream is to make Americans more helpless against economic elites who can exploit and abuse people at will. The Right -wing dream is to intensify the concentration of economic and bureaucratic power while perhaps reducing other people to debt-bondage that is just a step above slavery. But it isn't slavery so a certain reading of the Constitution allegedly allows it.

I agree. That's the right-wing wet dream. It's also apparently true that red voters don't often know what they are voting for, or don't take their real interests into account when choosing candidates. They are moved by their prejudices to vote Republican, and yet sometimes vote for liberal measures if they can, as Gabrielle pointed out.

I think you might give my astrological system a look and some credibility. Empirical evidence counts. The system has worked. And it only indicates and points toward what we can know intuitively about candidates anyway. Amy Klobuchar does not have the points to win. Democrats need to get behind Landrieu, McAuliffe or Brown and quit flirting with local favorites or candidates who may be progressive enough but can't communicate and inspire. Only skilled candidates have ever been elected president of the USA. They must be the kind of candidate who can appeal to American voters as potential presidents.

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Quote:Like I've said, you're issues aren't our issues and we'll be more than happy to stick you with all of them. The more you speak, the more I think bulldozing that wall that separates you from Mexico and the thousands/millions of poor (profanity deleted) Honduras sounds like a good idea. Dude, Trump's mean but I'd be a helluva lot meaner and much more cunning than Trump has been with you guys. You see, Trump is still interested and still trying to keep all of America together. Me, I wouldn't be all that interested in the idea of keeping all of America together. I'd be satisfied with keeping the bulk it together and sacrificing a portion of it for the greater good and the future survival of America. You see, I view the liberal blues the same way as the liberal blues view unwanted fetuses. As far as I'm concerned, the far left wore out it's welcome here a long time age and I view it as living on borrowed time and living off borrowed money. So, if you're lucky, you'll die before the progressive era of tax/borrow/print and spend comes to an ugly end.

I'll take refugees from drug-fueled violence (actually drug money supplied by American addicts) over our meth-sodden American scum any day. The Hispanic heritage in America is well-entrenched here, and it is largely positive. If you have children, then let me give my regard to your half-Hispanic grandchildren who will not like what you have to say. I don't know whether Hispanics more assimilate into the Anglo population or assimilate Anglos into theirs -- does it matter? It's a collection of rich cultures.

Breaking up America between 'red' regions and 'blue' regions is going to be nasty, just as in Yugoslavia. There are very 'blue' regions in Texas, including Dallas, Austin, Houston, San Antonio, and El Paso. A division of America into rural and urban areas due to politics makes little economic sense. Blue America needs Red America for food, and Red America needs culture from Blue America (such as Hollywood and New York City). A city like Chicago could not exist except for the rich farm product from the central US that flows through its port.

What you say about liberals sounds almost like a call for culling... sounds familiar and scary.

Mr. Classic Xer seems like a cruel and demented person.