11-19-2018, 05:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-19-2018, 05:27 PM by Eric the Green.)
(11-18-2018, 02:49 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(11-17-2018, 06:02 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: This article does seem to confirm Bob's perception of the information age in conflict with the industrial age, much as two saecula ago the conflict was between the industrial age and the agricultural age-- and involving many of the same states on the progressive and regressive side. Today the red industrial age side is blocking the progress brought by the blue information age side, whereas before the previous civil war the gray agricultural age side was blocking the progress brought by the blue industrial age side.
I am also seeing the S&H Turnings very heavily in play. Unravellings are supposed to be a time of selfishness and greed. A crisis period is most for unity, taking action, and transforming values. The former manifested as Reaganomics, small government, limited spending, providing minimal services. The latter has not yet manifested, but the blues have tried to advocate it.
Make America great again? Just like the 40s through 80s? The time of tax and spend liberalism? Can one be great while caring only for one's self?
Again you say 4Ts are time of unity, in spite of watching the video of what FDR said about those who hated him. You watched it, I take it? The Nazis would not have existed without our own financial meltdown in the USA, and our own merciless defeat of the Germans in WWI and its flawed peace treaty. A civil war is not unity; nor were the colonists united in opposition to King George. There is not unity in a 4T; just a congealing of opposing sides. Values are mostly transformed in 2Ts; that's the time I remember in which people changing their values was an everyday occurrence. Today? People are digging in; no transformation. so it was in the past. Today's 4T is the "Reaganomics, small government, limited spending, providing minimal services" side which re-gathered its strength (but existed in the previous 3T also) during the Second Turning in the mid-60s, in opposite to the other older social-oriented "tax and spend liberalism" combined with the newer green-peace values, the latter of which originated in the recent 2T and the former in the former one. Both sides are manifesting; they are battling it out.