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Generational Dynamics World View
(04-17-2017, 11:56 AM)Cynic Hero 86 Wrote: > The Anglo-Spanish war, the Thirty years War and Spanish succession
> wars ended with all an armistice. The Napoleonic wars ended with
> treaties except in the Last war in which napoleon was finally
> defeated. The only Major international war in the past several
> centuries in which the peace was imposed entirely by one
> victorious side without any input from the defeated was WW2,
> although Germany after WW1 in 1919 signed the final peace only
> after being given an ultimatum of basically "sign or else". In the
> Korean war the armistice was basically imposed on the Koreans by
> the US, China and USSR. A big reason why the US supported the
> South Korean reformers in the early 1980s is because of strong
> concerns that if the South Koreans were given more military
> capabilities than what they needed to defend themselves, they
> would have marched into the North. Which was a major mistake in my
> opinion as South Korea would have been much more militarily
> capable and we wouldn't have troops constantly stationed there as
> deterrence against the North.

But you have to have a crisis war climax before the armistice. There
was no crisis war climax in the Korean war, to my knowledge. If
a war reaches a truce or armistice without a crisis war climax,
then it was not a crisis war.

A crisis war climax is an explosive, genocidal event that's so
horrible that it brings the war to an end, and is remembered for
decades or even centuries. It's the climax that ends the fourth
turning Crisis era, and begins the first turning Recovery era.

So for example, the War of the Spanish Succession was settled by the
1714 Treaty of Utrecht, but the genocidal 1709 Battle of Malplaquet
was the climax. I know this because I spent dozens of hours studying
the War of the Spanish Succession in 2004 before I finally figured
out what was going on.

The major problem with your list is that what you are identifying as
wars are really groups of wars. For example, WW II was not a single
war. You had multiple wars, with different climaxes. The European
war climax was the firebombing of Dresden and the fall of Berlin. The
Pacific war climax was the nuking of Japan and surrender. But you
also had the China war, which climaxed in 1949, and the Mideast
war that also climaxed in 1949. In India, the Partition war
climaxed in 1948, but there was a separate war in eastern India
that didn't climax until 1971.

When you do a generational analysis of any war, then you have to study
the history of each country separately. In a large country, like
India, there may be multiple timelines, multiple crisis wars, and
multiple climaxes in different regions.

So if you want to claim that the 1950s Korea war was a crisis war for
Korea, then you're going to have to identify a crisis war climax. But
everything I've read about the Korea war is that it ended in a
stalemate. I'm not aware of any event that can be called a climax.
Or, to put it another way, the Korean War crisis is yet to come.

http://www.history.com/topics/korean-war
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by radind - 05-14-2016, 03:21 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 02-04-2017, 10:08 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 03-13-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by SomeGuy - 03-15-2017, 02:56 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by John J. Xenakis - 04-17-2017, 05:34 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 05-30-2017, 01:04 AM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 03-12-2020, 11:11 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 03-16-2020, 03:21 PM
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