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Generational Dynamics World View
** 09-Jun-2019 World View: Chinese migrants in Australia join Hong Kong anti-Beijing protests


An interesting related story is that Chinese migrants in Sydney,
Australia, are joining Hong Kong in anti-Beijing protests. They're
urging Australia's government to condemn the proposed Hong Kong
extradition law, as the US, Canada and the EU have already done.

Their motivation, beyond fraternal support, is that Chinese
expatriates who pass through Hong Kong on their way to another
destination could be arrested and abducted to China.

Australia, with a population of 25 million, has a large Chinese
diaspora. More than 500,000 people born in China and more than 86,000
people born in Hong Kong were in Australia as of the 2016 census.

There's a wider question here: in a war between China and the West,
would the Chinese diaspora in Western countries side with China or
with the West?

We can look for analogies in America in World War II.
Japanese-Americans were viewed very suspiciously as being on the side
of the Japanese, though they denied this, and the US set up internment
camps for Japanese-Americans. On the other hand, there were no
internment camps for German-Americans, since there was little fear
that they would side with the Nazis.

An interesting example that I looked at some years ago was the Spanish
Armada war (1588), when Spain (a Catholic country) launched its
Invincible Armada to invade England (a Protestant country).

The Catholic New Advent encyclopedia described how the Catholics in
England sided with the Protestant English against the Catholic French:

Quote: "Among the many side-issues which meet the student of
the history of the Armada, that of the cooperation or favor of the
Pope, and of the Catholic party among the English, is naturally
important for Catholics. There can be no doubt, then, that though
the Spanish predominance was not at all desired for its own sake
by the Catholics of England, France, and Germany, or of Rome, yet
the widespread suffering and irritation caused by the religious
wars Elizabeth fomented, and the indignation caused by her
religious persecution, and the execution of Mary Stuart, caused
Catholics everywhere to sympathize with Spain, and to regard the
Armada as a crusade against the most dangerous enemy of the
Faith. ...

There is no doubt that all the exiles for religion at that time
shared Allen's sentiments, but not so the Catholics in
England. They had always been the most conservative of English
parties. The resentment they felt at being persecuted led them to
blame the queen's ministers, but not to question her right to
rule. To them the great power of Elizabeth was evident, the forces
and intentions of Spain were unknown quantities. They might,
should, and did resist until complete justification was set before
them, and this was in fact never attempted. Much, for instance, as
we know of the Catholic clergy then laboring in England, we cannot
find that any of them used religion to advance the cause of the
Armada. Protestant and Catholic contemporaries alike agree that
the English Catholics were energetic in their preparations against
it.

These examples show that people tend to side with the country they're
living in, rather than the country of their ancestors, and that
actually makes sense.

So we can look at these historical examples as support for the
proposition that Chinese-Americans and Chinese diaspora in other
foreign countries could very well side with the West against China.

It's a little more complicated than that, though. The Japanese in
World War II were a united country at war with China and the US.

But China in WW II was in a bloody north-south civil war (Mao's
communist revolution), and that refighting that civil war is expected
in the coming years.

The people of Hong Kong and Taiwan are largely from southern China, so
they would be expected to side with the West against the
northern-based CCP thugs.

However, there are many northerners in the Chinese diaspora in the
West, and so the question of which side the Chinese diaspora will be
on won't be decided until they're forced to make a choice.

---- Sources:

-- Hong Kong protests against extradition law spill into Sydney
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongk...SKCN1TA06L
(Reuters, 9-Jun-2019)


-- The Spanish Armada
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01727c.htm
(New Advent Encyclopedia)


----- Related:

World View: War Between China and Japan: Why America Must Be Prepared
(Generational Theory Book Series, Book 2)
by John James Xenakis
Paperback: 331 pages, over 200 source references, $13.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1732738637/
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