10-16-2019, 09:04 PM
(10-16-2019, 03:33 PM)Cynic Hero Wrote:(10-16-2019, 02:27 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(10-15-2019, 06:19 PM)Cynic Hero Wrote: Sorry boomer but we'really not going to pretend that it's the equivalent of 1919 until the equivalent of 1955. Sorry but that's definitely not going to happen. And before you dismiss what i've said; keep in mind that the dynamics you described above DIDN'T happen during WW2.
Actually, they did happen in the runup to WWII, for example with the various Naval Treaties. Originally everyone found a compromise, then there was less and less compromise in subsequent treaties until they couldn't get to anything anyone would sign any more.
Granted, it seems to me it was the idealists rather than the reactives that didn't want to compromise in both cases.
Yes at first But not after about 1935 or so when Hitler unveiled the Wehrmacht. In the far east no one really sought compromise after about 1932. Any agreements after these periods were purely tactical moves. This remained the case even after 1945, the idea of honest compromise did not reemerge until 1954, after Stalin's death and the subsequent purge of Stalinist hardliners from the Kremlin leadership.
The second London Naval treaty permitted Japan to sign and prevent escalator clauses up to 1937, so we were still pretending it was 1919 up until then. I do think WWII ended the pretence - with Pearl Harbor for the US - and the current pretence will end with WWIII.
