11-05-2019, 05:52 PM
(11-04-2019, 11:45 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 04-Nov-2019 World View: Democide and population growth
(11-02-2019, 09:11 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > Why does generational dynamics imply that generational crisis wars
> reduce the population? Or are we talking about some extension to
> that theory?
(11-02-2019, 09:39 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: > Because the population grows faster than the food supply.
(11-03-2019, 09:24 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > That only implies that there has to be population reduction, or at
> least population growth reduction, at some point. It doesn't have
> to be linked to the generational cycle.
That's a good point, and it's one of the reasons that I've been
puzzled by this issue for years.
I'd suggest that the cycles are not linked, just as the generational cycle is not linked to the 58 year echoes.
Rather, when the population peaks, the form the culling takes depends on the time in the generational cycle. If it's the crisis period, maybe you get a deadly war where women and children are killed along with the men, or a war that takes out infrastructure and results in lots of civilian casualties. If it's a high, maybe you get executions of whoever the leadership doesn't like - Ukrainians under Stalin, whoever it was that Pol Pot was executing, prisoners taken by Aztec military raids. In unravelings, perhaps you get market redistribution of food away from the poor, as with the Irish Potato Famine. Maybe in an awakening, old people are left to starve - a lot of Lost didn't have social security to fall back on.
Actually, I think the empirical evidence suggests that during crisis periods, population limitation tends to be connected to reproductive limitation. There were scads of people starving to death in the Great Depression, but there were plenty of people not having kids. In the current crisis, the percentages of nonreproductive "genders" is increasing.
It would be interesting to take a wider look to find more data.
