12-26-2019, 07:34 PM
(12-26-2019, 04:55 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 26-Dec-2019 World View: Holocaust - Never again
Trevor Wrote:> I expect future generations will laugh at our stupidity: "Oh, my
> God, how could you not have seen China was going to attack us? It
> was right in front of your face!" If I make it through, I'll be
> quite willing to answer.
> It never ceases to amaze me the kind of following AOC has. She's
> younger than I am and a freshmen Congresswoman who somehow managed
> to obtain great influence in the party. Sometimes I feel like the
> public is aware something terrible is over the horizon, even if we
> don't recognize it on a conscious level. Climate change is easy
> because you can amplify your fear with self-righteousness and
> denounce anyone who dares to disagree with you.
> Might sound a bit too cynical, but "never again" never meant a
> damn thing, today or in the past. Atrocities and genocides abound
> throughout the world, with justice or even remembrance of them
> elusive.
That's not cynical at all. That's reality. There are several
Holocausts going on today, and nobody cares. Actually, nobody cared
about the Nazi-Jew Holocaust while it was going on. To care about a
Holocaust while it's actually going on is too politically painful,
because the politicians, the trolls, the defenders, the acolytes, the
deniers, the cheerleaders and the collaborators all benefit from the
Holocaust, and will protect it. It's only after it's over that nobody
stands to benefit, and then the wise men can say, "Never Again!"
The Germans knew that Hitler was treating the Jews disgracefully -- but not that disgracefully. Hitler made sure not to kill Jews in Germany or in countries in which Germans were likely to be tourists. To that end the Nazis did mass killings of Jews in places of mass Jewish population in what had been the Soviet Union under its borders of January 1, 1941, only to start deporting Jews to murder camps in Poland. The Nazis made the Holocaust one of the tightest-controlled of state secrets.
Josef Goebbels, who certainly knew what was going on, corrected himself in one speech as he started to use the German word Vernichtung (annihilation) of what was to happen to the Jews... replacing it with the less ominous, if not by much, Ausrottung (uprooting). Germans were led to believe that Hitler was 'only' removing the Jews from Germany to 'the East', which included places that before the War had huge numbers of Jews.
So why didn't the Allies complain? Because such would have fit Nazi propaganda -- that the war was on behalf of the Jews, who according to Nazi propaganda, conspired against the German State and people. Hitler even claimed that FDR and Churchill were Jews. Besides, Hitler would have used the Jews as hostages to save his vile hide in the event of military reverses. (OK, Hitler never offered to stop the Holocaust to get favorable terms). Winning the war, the Allies thought, would solve all problems, including Nazi atrocities.
From an early time Churchill was contemplating severe punishment of the Nazis for their many crimes, starting with the slaughter of the Polish economic, political, cultural, and technical elites -- before Hitler even started killing Jews en masse. Hitler had to annihilate the Polish elite to make Poland a safe haven for the Holocaust.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
