02-01-2020, 09:43 AM
** 01-Feb-2020 World View: Civil war
Could you give me some links to the articles and blog posts that
you're referencing?
I still reject the concept of a "civil war" in any meaningful sense.
As I've mentioned in the past, my father, a Greek immigrant, once told
me that the violence in America in the 1930s was so bad that he
thought America would not survive. Furthermore, FDR was just as hated
and divisive then as Trump is today. Nonetheless, nobody describes
the 1930s as a time of civil war, as far as I know.
It's true that I am afraid of what the Democrats will unleash if Trump
wins again in November and the Democrats are facing the unbearable
horror of four more years of Trump supporters, but I expect the
violence to be sporadic.
The bitterness and fury of the Democrats is plainly visible on tv
among the politicians and mainstream media "reporters." And there's
no doubt that this is reflected in the Democrats in the general
public, as you said: "I've read article after article and blog post
where people proudly proclaim they have cut all ties with their former
Republican friends and family."
However, here's where the civil war concept breaks down. Crisis civil
wars are along fault lines based on things like ethnicity, skin color,
religion, and so forth. But I assume that the articles and blog posts
you're reading don't go farther and say something like, "I've cut all
ties with my former Republican friends and family, and now I'm making
plans to go back and kill them."
If you start reading articles and blog posts of that sort, beyond
sporadic stuff from Antifa nutjobs, then we can re-assess the
possibility of civil war.
Trevor Wrote:> Seeing all this is beginning to convince me that our crisis war is
> going to be a civil war. I know it's been dismissed many
> times. Even two years ago, I would have laughed at the very idea
> of things getting to that point. Now. . . I'm not so sure
> anymore. There are people I know who are willing to justify
> Antifa's actions, because, after all, their targets are white
> supremacists. I've had people throw me out of their lives because
> I'm not on the "impeach Trump" bandwagon. Not liking him isn't
> enough. I've read article after article and blog post where people
> proudly proclaim they have cut all ties with their former
> Republican friends and family.
> I haven't watched the entire thing the way John has, but I've seen
> enough to where these people scare me. Trump might have thrown
> gasoline onto the fire, but I don't think the response would be
> very different if Rubio or Cruz had gotten elected. The media
> ignores or justifies Antifa's actions in Portland and other
> cities. Far as they're concerned, all Trump supporters deserve the
> same treatment.
> They've already declared the 2020 election illegitimate even
> though it's 10 months away. Trump's likely to win in a landslide,
> though the Democrats will do their best to cheat. Sometimes I
> wonder if the GOP will vote to remove him just to try and appease
> their anger, even if it wouldn't work.
> Things got real crazy after the 2008 recession and we've still got
> one coming. I don't think it's been this terrible since
> immediately before the Civil War. You wear a Trump hat in the
> cities, you're likely to be beaten or at least harassed. I've been
> watching events in Virginia, and they were begging for a violent
> incident so they could spin it. Governor Northam was all but
> provoking one, but nothing happened, much to their
> disappointment. They want to disarm their political opponents,
> which sends chills up my spine.
> When it comes to confiscation, Virginia is the canary in the coal
> mine. I don't think they understand just how important gun rights
> are to conservative, else you wouldn't hear calls to send in the
> National Guard to disarm them. No, the Governor hasn't actually
> ordered this, but some lawmakers have suggested it. Some will do
> anything for total submission, and I don't think they realize what
> they could unleash.
> It wouldn't be red state versus blue state. It'd be rural versus
> urban, with numerous factions fighting for control of the
> country. I'm still not convinced we're really going to have a
> civil war, but the trend line is going in that
> direction. Everything is considered justified, so long as the Tea
> Partiers are crushed.
Could you give me some links to the articles and blog posts that
you're referencing?
I still reject the concept of a "civil war" in any meaningful sense.
As I've mentioned in the past, my father, a Greek immigrant, once told
me that the violence in America in the 1930s was so bad that he
thought America would not survive. Furthermore, FDR was just as hated
and divisive then as Trump is today. Nonetheless, nobody describes
the 1930s as a time of civil war, as far as I know.
It's true that I am afraid of what the Democrats will unleash if Trump
wins again in November and the Democrats are facing the unbearable
horror of four more years of Trump supporters, but I expect the
violence to be sporadic.
The bitterness and fury of the Democrats is plainly visible on tv
among the politicians and mainstream media "reporters." And there's
no doubt that this is reflected in the Democrats in the general
public, as you said: "I've read article after article and blog post
where people proudly proclaim they have cut all ties with their former
Republican friends and family."
However, here's where the civil war concept breaks down. Crisis civil
wars are along fault lines based on things like ethnicity, skin color,
religion, and so forth. But I assume that the articles and blog posts
you're reading don't go farther and say something like, "I've cut all
ties with my former Republican friends and family, and now I'm making
plans to go back and kill them."
If you start reading articles and blog posts of that sort, beyond
sporadic stuff from Antifa nutjobs, then we can re-assess the
possibility of civil war.
