Generational Dynamics World View

[David Horn]

(02-05-2020, 03:08 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 05-Feb-2020 World View: MS-NBC

(02-05-2020, 12:36 PM)David Horn Wrote: If you do a quick run-through of MS-NBC, you'll find several former GOP staffers and office holders, like Nicole Wallace and Elise Jordan, to say nothing of Michael Steel.  In fact, the list is long.  For that matter Joe Scarborough was originally a conservative GOP House member.  I doubt Fox has anywhere near the concentration of left-of-center commentators, and zero hosting programs there. In the straight news part of the operation, there actually are.  Chris Wallace, though certainly conservative, is one. Sheppard Smith had to leave.  He had all he could take.

Nicole Wallace, Elise Jordan and Michael Steele may be Republicans, and were George Bush supporters, but now they're all nevertrumpers and Trump haters. Joe Scarborough has been a vitriolic hater of all Republicans for years, which is why he has such a prominent position on MS-NBC.

The examples that I gave (Mara Liasson, Juan Williams, Donna Brazile and Mary Harf) were never never-obamers, and never hated Obama.  To the contrary, they're still strong supporters of Obama.  But they are all biased against Trump.

Therefore, all of those people that both of us listed (Nicole Wallace, Elise Jordan, Michael Steele, Joe Scarborough, Mara Liasson, Juan Williams, Donna Brazile and Mary Harf) are all on the same side -- hating Trump and biased against Trump.  So you've been trying to play me.

So you're completely full of crap.  You're apparently so stupid that you think that a Trump-hating Republican balances out the garbage on MS-NBC, or else you're so stupid that you didn't think I would bother to check.  Either way you're a liar and a complete idiot.  But let's face it -- what else should anyone expect from the left?

Just because a group of politicos fail to kiss the ring doesn't mean they are illegitimate. Many on the list I cited are still Republicans, though how that remains so is a mystery to me. The ones who left, did so in the same manner that Reagan left the Democratic Party: the party left them. If anything, a cult-of-personality is totally antithetical to democracy, the US Constitution and basic decency. So no, you don't get to handwave away with the never-Trump nonsense. Everyone has a right to his or her conscience, and the fact that Trumps seems to lack one doesn't imply that others must as well.

John Wrote:

David Wrote:What you call nonsense from Adam Schiff is now recognized by GOP Senators as fully valid and accurate.  Please, point out any fabrication that can be shown to be one.  Generalities don't cut it.

Oh, for heaven's sake, give me a break.  There are hundreds of examples.  Schiff fabricated the text of the July 25 phone call and read his fabrication on tv -- "I'm only going to say this seven times, that I want you to dig up dirt on Biden, and I want you to do dig up as much dirt as you can, and the more dirt you can dig up, the more aid I'll give you."

The thing is, people like you are so deluded that you think that Schiff was telling the truth.  You probably think that what Schiff said was the actual text of the phone call.  Schiff is a complete, worthless sleaze, a total piece of garbage, and you're as much of a liar as he is.

I heard Schiff's comment in real time. He never claimed it was anything other than his interpretation of the call -- a call, by the way, that has still to see daylight. If DJT gets to put his spin on the call and call it perfect, he opens the door for others to do the same. If you want authenticity, then demand that it be removed from the classified server and distributed to the press and Congress.

John Wrote:

(02-05-2020, 12:36 PM)David Horn Wrote: John, I'm really worried about you.  How can you be that gullible?

I rarely get angry any more, but I do get angry when someone tries to play me the way you've been lying and trying to play me.  You're a jackass.

Your biases have been on display for as long as I've read your stuff, but your take on foreign affairs is quite deep and useful. Your gullibility on Trump is simply baffling. He's such an obvious troll, and you buy it. Why?

BTW, let's add the source of the misinformation too. Murdock has his media claws into three countries: the US, UK and Australia. All three suffer from the same propaganda-laced politics. All three are falling apart in one way or another. The correlation index is 1.