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Generational Dynamics World View
** 12-Feb-2020 World View:Turkey, Russia, Syria accusations over Idlib seem to be spiraling out of control


Turkey's president Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Wednesday that they
will no longer honor their Astana and Sochi agreements with Russia,
and will strike at the regime forces of Syria's president Bashar
al-Assad anywhere, unless the regime forces are pulled back.

Quote:> "The [Syria] regime, backed by Russian forces and
> Iran-backed militants, are continuously attacking civilians,
> committing massacres and shedding blood.

> I hereby declare that we will strike regime forces everywhere from
> now on regardless of the Sochi deal if any tiny bit of harm comes
> to our soldiers at observation posts or elsewhere. ...

> Turkey is determined to push back Syrian regime forces from
> Turkey’s observation posts in Idlib by the end of February.

> [To push back the Syrian forces, Turkey] will do what is necessary
> via land and air without hesitation. ...

> Nobody is safe where the blood of Turkish soldiers is shed. ...
> Turkey will use its full force. ...

> At this point, we will not shut our eyes to excess, radicalism,
> treason and provocation of someone [in Syria]."

Russia's spokesman Dmitry Peskov responded:

Quote:> "At the moment, we consider the most important thing
> is the implementation of ... agreements (between Russia and
> Turkey) ... and of course the suppression of any terrorist
> activity directed against the Syrian armed forces and Russian
> military facilities. We consider such sorties from Idlib
> unacceptable."

"Terrorist" is a weasel-word used by the Russians. In public
statements, they demand that Turkey somehow separate out the
"terrorists" from the civilians, so that al-Assad can kill the
"terrorists" and leave the civilians alone. But al-Assad considers
all 3.5 million Arab Sunni men, women and children in Idlib to be
"terrorists," all cockroaches to be exterminated in any way possible.

The Russian defence ministry used these weasel words on Wednesday,
blaming the crisis in Idlib on "failure by Turkish colleagues to
fulfil their obligations on separating fighters from the moderate
opposition from terrorists."

Syria's foreign ministry in Damascus issued a statement:

Quote:> "The head of the Turkish regime comes with
> empty... statements only issued by a person disconnected from
> reality."

Turkey and Russia have been in a "marriage of convenience" with
regards to Syria policy at least since 2015, when Russia entered the
war in Syria. This marriage has been extremely difficult, which is
not surprising, since Turks and Russians have shared many centuries of
mutual hatred and generational crisis wars:

** 25-Nov-15 World View -- Turkey shoots down Russian warplane, evoking memories of many Crimean wars
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e151125



Generational Dynamics predicts that there will be a "divorce of
inconvenience," and a new generational crisis war between the Sunni
Muslim Turks and the Orthodox Christian Russians.

Turkish media are saying hopefully that the marriage of convenience
will continue, in view of relationships in many areas, including
"trade, tourism, Black Sea, Balkans, Middle East, especially Syria,
Libya, defense industry (S-400s), energy (nuclear Akkuyu and energy
transmission lines) etc. It is possible to extend the list."

Nonetheless, Russia is clearly siding with the Syrian regime against
Turkey, and positions on all sides seem to be hardening. The
situation in Idlib seems to be spinning out of control.



---- Sources:

-- Erdogan / 'Turkey to hit regime anywhere if troops harmed again'
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/tur...in/1731665
(Anadolu, Ankara, 12-Feb-2020)

-- End of proxy war: Turkey-Russia tensions rise over Syria
https://middle-east-online.com/en/end-pr...over-syria
(Middle East Online, 12-Feb-2020)

---- Related Posts and Articles:

*** 11-Feb-2020 World View: Tensions grow between Turkey and Russia over Idlib
*** http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?...957#p49957

** 11-Feb-20 World View -- Syria war escalates into new phase with military clashes between al-Assad and Turkey
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e200211



** 9-Feb-20 World View -- Turkey sends tanks across border into Syria to confront al-Assad regime in Idlib
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e200209
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