03-31-2020, 02:03 PM
** 30-Mar-2020 World View: American Civil War
The "regeneracy" in generational theory refers to the regeneracy of
civic unity behind the leader for the first time since the end of the
preceding crisis war. The regeneracy occurs when some event occurs
that presents an existential threat to a country or its way of life.
At that point, political enemies put politics aside, and unite to
fight the existential threat. That's the trend we're seeing now
over the coronavirus threat.
In "ordinary times," the $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package
would never have passed. But last week, it passed the Senate 98-0.
That's an example of the trend towards the regeneration of civic unity.
As for AOC, she's the stupidest person on the national scene today.
She's so stupid that the only people stupider than she is are the
people who believe her.
Once again, are you completely blind to what's going on? Two months
ago, when Trump was being impeached, the country was shackled by
political correctness. But then the coronavirus hit, and presented
an existential threat to the nation which was enough to begin
the regeneracty trend -- the regeneration of civic unity to
fight the existential threat.
The concept of a new American civil war is pure fantasy, as I've written
many times. I've studied probably hundreds of civil wars throughout
history, and there are certain things that always precede a civil war,
but which are completely missing in America today.
Since you were kind enough to provide a historical example, I will
address that directly.
The Ottoman Empire was, obviously, an "empire." At its height, Turkey
was in control of Greece, Bulgaria, Egypt, Hungary, Macedonia,
Romania, Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, some of Arabia, and a
considerable amount of the North African coastal strip.
So the Ottoman empire collapsed, meaning that Turkey no longer controlled
all those other countries. But Turkey itself survived.
So this part of your analogy completely collapses. America does not
have any similar empire. Even in the case of Puerto Rico, no war
would be required. If the Puerto Ricans simply voted to become
independent, they would become independent. So this comparison
to the Ottoman Empire is ridiculous.
The other part of your analogy is the Armenian genocide. This can be
viewed as an ethnic civil war between Turks and Armenians. After it
was over, Turkey still survived.
There is absolutely no sign today of an ethnic civil war between
Latinos and -- who? It would have to be American citizens, including
many Latinos who would be on the side of America. Even if there were
some kind of clash, it would be meaningless in the long run.
One can only wish.
Guest Wrote:> When this country "regenerates" , will the country be reborn as a
> Spanish speaking third world country? People can say race and
> culture don't matter, but they do. Language and culture are what
> bind a nation. We have largely lost that. When AOC's staff shows
> up at public events sporting t-shirts which say "The future of
> America is Latino" what I am supposed to think? What will my
> future look like? Not good.
The "regeneracy" in generational theory refers to the regeneracy of
civic unity behind the leader for the first time since the end of the
preceding crisis war. The regeneracy occurs when some event occurs
that presents an existential threat to a country or its way of life.
At that point, political enemies put politics aside, and unite to
fight the existential threat. That's the trend we're seeing now
over the coronavirus threat.
In "ordinary times," the $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package
would never have passed. But last week, it passed the Senate 98-0.
That's an example of the trend towards the regeneration of civic unity.
As for AOC, she's the stupidest person on the national scene today.
She's so stupid that the only people stupider than she is are the
people who believe her.
Guest Wrote:> America has a string of failed states below it in Latin
> America. This is a form gangrene that we have allowed to spread
> across our open borders. Is it racist to point that out? I don't
> believe so. No rational person would. I see a country shackled by
> political correctness and drowning.
Once again, are you completely blind to what's going on? Two months
ago, when Trump was being impeached, the country was shackled by
political correctness. But then the coronavirus hit, and presented
an existential threat to the nation which was enough to begin
the regeneracty trend -- the regeneration of civic unity to
fight the existential threat.
a refugee Wrote:> I have read two of your books and bits and pieces of the Fourth
> Turning, John. I think your analysis is much better, but sometimes
> I think you miss the forest for the trees.
> I strongly believe that America has reached the end of the line. I
> would compare multi-cultural, multi-ethnic America today to the
> Ottoman Empire of 1914. The empire worked until it didn't. The
> ethnic differences became to great and the first world war didn't
> unite the Ottoman Empire, it destroyed it. The Armenians
> can tell you how that ended.
The concept of a new American civil war is pure fantasy, as I've written
many times. I've studied probably hundreds of civil wars throughout
history, and there are certain things that always precede a civil war,
but which are completely missing in America today.
Since you were kind enough to provide a historical example, I will
address that directly.
The Ottoman Empire was, obviously, an "empire." At its height, Turkey
was in control of Greece, Bulgaria, Egypt, Hungary, Macedonia,
Romania, Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, some of Arabia, and a
considerable amount of the North African coastal strip.
So the Ottoman empire collapsed, meaning that Turkey no longer controlled
all those other countries. But Turkey itself survived.
So this part of your analogy completely collapses. America does not
have any similar empire. Even in the case of Puerto Rico, no war
would be required. If the Puerto Ricans simply voted to become
independent, they would become independent. So this comparison
to the Ottoman Empire is ridiculous.
The other part of your analogy is the Armenian genocide. This can be
viewed as an ethnic civil war between Turks and Armenians. After it
was over, Turkey still survived.
There is absolutely no sign today of an ethnic civil war between
Latinos and -- who? It would have to be American citizens, including
many Latinos who would be on the side of America. Even if there were
some kind of clash, it would be meaningless in the long run.
Guest Wrote:> Those who have raised their voices in protest have been
> silenced.
One can only wish.
