05-06-2020, 10:44 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-06-2020, 10:46 AM by David Horn.)
(05-05-2020, 10:28 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 05-May-2020 World View: Nuclear war game changer
(05-05-2020, 09:02 AM)David Horn Wrote: > but nukes have really changed that dynamic forever. A world war would, as Albert Einstein noted, put us back in the preindustrial age.
Einstein was wrong about that. He had his own his issues, feeling guilty about bringing nuclear weapons into the world.
In the Generational Dynamics forum, over the years, we've had many discussions about the outcome of nuclear war, using nuclear and EMP weapons, sometimes including experts who (unlike you or me) actually know what they're talking about.
Talk is talk. If you honestly believe a nuclear war is winnable, you're in a very small minority … and a bit scary, to be honest.
(05-05-2020, 09:02 AM)David Horn Wrote: > No one is that crazy ... even the Orange One. But let's say for argument's sake that one occurs on Trump's watch. That in no way guarantees his position as a hero. He may end his life as the new Hitler. Who's to say?
Boy, do you have that backwards. Hitler was loved by the Germans. He was hated by everyone else because he lost the war. Even after the war, many Germans were loyal to Hitler's memory, and there's a neo-Nazi movement today that still worships Hitler.
Yes, but the German people as a whole reject him entirely, and he did bring their nation to ruin and occupation. The Germans have risen, but certainly not due to Der Führer.
John Xenakis Wrote:... During Obama's presidency I used to say that a world war would instantly unite the country behind Obama. I remember the fury I heard from the conservatives at this suggestion, with one person saying that if he were "behind Obama," then he would shoot. Now I get the same identical fury from liberals with respect to Trump. If there's a generational crisis war on Trump's watch, that will guarantee his position as a hero.
You ought to reread The Fourth Turning. That book covers a lot of this stuff.
He will be the next Hoover or, if you prefer, Buchannan. Not exactly hero material.
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