Generational Dynamics World View

[John J. Xenakis]

** 12-May-2020 World View: List of crisis wars

(05-12-2020, 07:34 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: > Do you have a list of recent crisis wars, say in the post World
> War II time frame? What, exactly, defines a crisis war?

> Say, for example, was Bush 43’s Iraq conflict an existential war
> for Iraq but not for the United States? As it turned out the
> Baath party’s control ceased to exist, but the United States
> didn’t, was not really in play. Still, the alliance of the
> Republican Party, big oil and the aggressive believers in US
> military dominance took a big hit. Can changes in perception or
> influence of the dominant party count as existential? Can you
> count what happened to the Baath and Republican parties as
> different?

> Even World War II did not end the existence of Germany, Italy and
> Japan. They are all three still on the map. However, their
> cultures endured a significant forced change. They had to accept
> the Enlightenment virtues as expanded. (Human rights, equality,
> democracy.) So did the slaveowners after the US Civil War. All
> the formerly Confederate states still exist. I have a feeling
> that the possibility of rebooting a culture and then letting the
> resulting state go does not effect World War II's and the US Civil
> War status as crisis wars.

> Just looking at Wiki’s list of recent wars and seeing how many
> would count as crisis wars. How do you define a crisis war?

> Anyone else have an opinion?

I've probably written several million words on the differences between
crisis and non-crisis wars, and I won't attempt to repeat that here.
However, "rebooting the culture" would not be uncommon during the
Recovery Era following a crisis war, particular within the nation or
society that lost the war. A generational crisis war is extremely
horrific and traumatizing to all sides, and typically the population
becomes anxious and desperate to make sure that it never happens
again, and some sort of "rebooting" would not be unusual.

I get asked a lot of questions, and I try to answer all of them, based
on three conditions: I have to have the time, it has to be an
interesting subject, and I have to be in the mood. If those conditions
aren't met, then I usually ask the questioner to do his own research.
This has actually worked out very well, as a number of people have
done their own research, and contributed to the development of
Generational Dynamics.

In a previous message, you said you would like to compare generational
patterns in the industrial age vs the information age vs other ages.
This is a huge project that would take 3-6 months to do properly,
which is not time that I have. If you're really interested in
this subject, I would encourage you to do your own research.
I would caution you that you would probably have to access 50-100
sources, and it would take you a couple of months just to collect
those sources and begin writing narratives.

With regard to the Iraq war, this was discussed for years in the
old Fourth Turning forum. The summary is that the Iran/Iraq war
was a generational crisis war for both Iran and Iraq. America's
Gulf War was a Recovery Era war for Iraq, and the Iraq war was
an Awakening era war for Iraq.

The following article from April 2007 was the best article:

** Iraqi Sunnis are turning against al-Qaeda in Iraq
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/w...070401.htm


As for a list of crisis wars since WW II, I probably should try to
work up the energy to provide a comprehensive list, and who knows
maybe I will. In the meantime, I went through my files and prepared a
list of countries where I've written about their last generational
crisis war. Keep in mind that there are almost 200 countries, so this
would be a huge project. The following is the quick list that I came
up with, and I provided a link to an article where I discussed the
war, sometimes only briefly:

Kenya -- Mau-Mau rebellion - 1956
** 4-Feb-18 World View -- Kenya cracks down on political opposition after mock inauguration
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e180204


Bolivia - civil war ends in 1967
** 15-Nov-19 World View -- Ouster of Bolivia's president Evo Morales evokes memories of Ché Guevara
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e191115


Iran/Iraq war - Great Islamic Revolution -- 1979-88
** 3-Nov-19 World View -- Anti-Iran, anti-government protests spread across Iraq
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e191103


Cambodian "Killing Fields" genocide, 1975-79 - Cambodia and Thailand
** 17-Jan-19 World View -- Cambodia's Hun Sen threatens to kill opposition politicians if EU ends preferences
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e190117

** 30-Oct-18 World View -- Thailand and Thaksin Shinawatra prepare for new national elections
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e181030


South Sudan war of independence - climaxed in 1991
** 9-Dec-18 World View -- Latest South Sudan peace agreement appears close to collapse
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e181209


Colombia and Venezuela - "La Violencia," or the Colombian Revolt, 1948-1959.
** 12-Aug-18 World View -- Colombia's president Ivan Duque takes office amidst accusations from Venezuela
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e180812


Armenian Azerbaijan 1989-94
** 18-Apr-18 World View -- Leader of Armenia's 'non-violent velvet revolution' threatens to paralyze the country
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e180418


Yemen civil war 1962-68
** 29-Jan-18 World View -- Clashes erupt between Saudi and UAE backed forces in South Yemen's port of Aden
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e180129


Rhodesia civil war - Zimbabwe - 1979
** 30-Jul-18 World View -- Operation Gukurahundi genocide becomes major Zimbabwe election issue
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e180730


Afghanistan civil war -- 1991-96
** 25-Jul-17 World View -- Massive Kabul bombing on Monday leaves US Afghan policy in tatters
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e170725


Democratic Republic of Congo - Kasai region - 1960
** 21-Jun-17 World View -- Massive government atrocities in DR Congo's Kasai threaten regional stability
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e170621


Algeria's war of independence from France (1954-62)
** 30-May-17 World View -- Arrest of Berber activist in Morocco raises Berber-Arab tensions
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e170530


Cameroon - UPC Revolt - 1956-1960
** 15-Feb-17 World View -- Cameroon shuts down internet for English-speakers protesting French-speakers
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e170215


Ethiopia - Eritria - 1991
** 14-Jun-16 World View -- Heavy fighting along Eritrea-Ethiopia border raises fears of war
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e160614


Pakistan - india - Partition war - 1947
** 15-Aug-17 World View -- Pakistan celebrates its 70th birthday, wondering what Pakistan is
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e170815


Bangladesh - East Pakistan - East India - 1971
** 12-Jun-16 World View -- Bangladesh government arrests 3,192 people to stop terrorist killings
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e160612


Rwanda - Burundi - 1994
** 30-Apr-15 World View -- 20,000 refugees flee violence in Burundi, fearing Hutu-Tutsi war
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e150430


Sri Lanka civil war - 2009
** Tamil Tigers surrender, ending the Sri Lanka crisis civil war
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e090517


Cuba - 1960
** 14-Dec-18 World View -- Cuba eases economic restrictions, continuing on path from Socialism to free markets
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e181214