05-18-2020, 07:52 PM
** 18-May-2020 World View: Russia
Russia's last crisis war was definitely the Bolshevik Revolution, so
it's definitely on the WW I timeline. WW II was definitely an
Awakening era war for Russia.
I think what you're referring to is a suggestion by David Kaiser that
the Nazi invasion of Russia was so brutal that it destroyed an entire
generation, so was like a crisis war for Russia. I have some sympathy
for that suggestion, since it's similar to what I would call a "First
Turning reset," when an unexpected invasion occurs prior to the Crisis
era. In that case, the country behaves according to its generational
era, but if the generational relationships have been destroyed, then
the country returns to a First Turning when the war ends.
If Russia were much smaller, then I would fully agree to that
suggestion. But I have my doubts that the First Turning reset option
can occur to a county as large as Russia. Still, there's no doubt
that the Nazi invasion had a major effect on Russia's population.
As far as the "WW I vs II timeline," those are just phrases of
convenience, and it doesn't really matter which group you assign
Russia to, since they're all going to merge in WW III anyway.
For convenience, I tend to think of the "WW I timeline" as being
Russia and the Mideast, and "WW II timeline" as being the West, even
though some countries don't fall neatly into those categories.
(05-17-2020, 09:11 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > I have a separate question: at one point in response to a question
> from me, I think you said Russia had been moved from the WWI time
> line to the WWII time line by WWII. Is that still your view - that
> Russia is now on the WWII time line?
Russia's last crisis war was definitely the Bolshevik Revolution, so
it's definitely on the WW I timeline. WW II was definitely an
Awakening era war for Russia.
I think what you're referring to is a suggestion by David Kaiser that
the Nazi invasion of Russia was so brutal that it destroyed an entire
generation, so was like a crisis war for Russia. I have some sympathy
for that suggestion, since it's similar to what I would call a "First
Turning reset," when an unexpected invasion occurs prior to the Crisis
era. In that case, the country behaves according to its generational
era, but if the generational relationships have been destroyed, then
the country returns to a First Turning when the war ends.
If Russia were much smaller, then I would fully agree to that
suggestion. But I have my doubts that the First Turning reset option
can occur to a county as large as Russia. Still, there's no doubt
that the Nazi invasion had a major effect on Russia's population.
As far as the "WW I vs II timeline," those are just phrases of
convenience, and it doesn't really matter which group you assign
Russia to, since they're all going to merge in WW III anyway.
For convenience, I tend to think of the "WW I timeline" as being
Russia and the Mideast, and "WW II timeline" as being the West, even
though some countries don't fall neatly into those categories.
