Generational Dynamics World View

[David Horn]

(05-28-2020, 01:19 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(05-27-2020, 10:45 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(05-26-2020, 11:34 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(05-26-2020, 10:21 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: Well, maybe I'm stubborn, but this isn't a political or ideological issue.  To the contrary, I've examined thousands of generational events going back thousands of years, and I haven't noticed any differences in the way that generational eras change in different ages.

I would go with stubborn.

Look at the fourth column in the properties of cultures of the era, the form of government.  It goes from tribal chiefs, to a semi hereditary warrior / landowning class, to elected officials.  If  I’m guessing right, in the Information Age we will eventually when we solve the security problem go to direct vote network democracy so the representatives stop identifying with the elites...

I hope not!  We have too few capable of understanding and addressing complex problems to assign that as another DIY Project for the People.  We already have the white working class, one step above the poor, aligning with the elites, because those folks one step down need to stay there.

I do anticipate early teething pains.  However, in the US the Senate has two biases.  The first is the pro slavery bias giving more power to the rural states.  The second is the bias of representative government towards the elites.  The first step might be replacing the senate with a direct democracy veto.  The hope is that if the House doesn't try to do anything egregious, it would hopefully not have to be used often, but any benefits to corporations or the elites might get stepped on.

Cuomo in today's bug press conference went on a bit about how in order to get a senators vote, you quite often have to give something to that senator's state.  As a result, most bills are full of pork.  There is no sense of passing a bill because it is right.  That is why Alaska wound up getting way more relief per case in the virus bill than New York.  It was about the pork rather than the need.

Still too soon to do much more than daydream.

Yes, we have a broken polity, created to do exactly what it's doing.  It may have been a necessity in the Agricultural Age when it was fabricated, but it's long past its sell-by date today. If we were not at the tail end of decades where the value of the social sciences and humanities have been ignored to the point of total neglect, I might feel better about handing things over to the people -- but I don't.  You live in Massachusetts, where the disease of ignorance has not fallen entirely on the commonweal.  I live in Virginia, where it's a much more advanced cancer, but insignificant in comparison to many places in the deep South and much of the center of the country.  The attitudes are, frankly, scary.  

Neil Howe thinks the 4T will end in 2030, give-or-take a year or two at most.  At a minimum, that's 8 more years of strife.  Assuming he's right, where does that leave us?