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[Bob Butler 54]

(08-30-2020, 12:52 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: For weeks, there have been growing incidents of looting and destroying hundreds of small businesses, many black owned, burning buildings, smashing cars, smashing people, killing people and other violence by the antifa-blm fascists in cities across the country with Democratic party mayors.

The Democrats and mainstream media have been pretending that this increasing fascist violence doesn't exist, for obvious reasons.

But today, things are changing.  Now that there have been pro-Trump vigilante groups clashing with the antifa-blm fascists in Portland and Kenosha, the Democrats and mainstream media are suddenly able to report the violence, since they can blame it on Trump.

Isn't this wonderful?  Maybe we'll soon be treated to antifa-blm fascists clashing with tea-partier-trump-supporter fascists and killing each other in streets across the country.  Won't that be fun?

Since when has caring about black lives made one a fascist?  If anything, the old fascists were for mass official murder of minorities that they opposed.  That is about the exact opposite of what Black Lives Matter stands for, equality, justice and due process for all.

Again, Antifa is anti fascist.  When the KKK and the Neo Nazi disappeared their mission was accomplished.  I am aware that those inside your bubble are attaching their name to other motivations, but you are trying to pretend to be objective?  You can’t push an ideological scheme and be objective.

Now there are those who believe the capitalist democratic system has failed, and they would start using violence as the only way to change.  Push the boogaloo.  That motive definitely exists.  You just ought to attribute that motive to people who claim it.  I find the basic premise Marxist.  The Boogaloo Bois are less into theory, and avoid association with past violent revolutions as the results have been horrible. Still, that is one indication the Bois should be put on the left, while they are generally placed on the right.  Still, I believe the left right labels break down as motivations get well clear of acceptance of the capitalist - democratic system.  Other than to express my doubts, folks can label them as they like.

The Tea Party was motivated to push the Republican agenda getting rid of the elitist affinity.  They sort of ceased to exist when they shifted loyalty to an elitist.  The Republican base use to be the Tea Party, but that term has about disappeared since Trump came on the scene.  That doesn’t make them fascist.  The current Trump followers are more of a personality cult than anything else.  Intense loyalty to the Leader alone does not make them fascist.  That is just the old intellectual laziness.  All Republican are supposedly fascist.  All democrats are equally communist.  Ugh.  I have been grumbling about that bad habit for years.  I have no trouble telling the difference between the groups of last crisis and this one.  

How precisely do you define ‘fascist’?  You seem ready to throw the term around lightly.  Anyone willing to divide folks into us and them and use violence against them to achieve status, power and wealth?  If so, most everyone who uses violence on others qualify.  It isn't that simple.  It isn't how most use the term.