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[Bob Butler 54]

(09-07-2020, 09:58 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

(09-07-2020, 03:38 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: It may be that if you are a Nazi, you actually do want living space and to kill Jews.

My point is that they all want the violent outcomes.  The Nazis want to kill the hated Jews,and Lori Lightfoot and Ted Wheeler and Bill deBlasio want to see the homes and businesses of the hated Tea Partiers and Trump supporters destroyed.  De Blasio, in particular, appears to me to be certifiably insane.

I wouldn't say all.  At a high level, you can see the difference.  You can see the old hunter gatherer approach.  Divide us and them, vilify them, and use violence to keep them in their place.  Then there is the Information Age approach.  Unify, allow non violent expression of the will of the people, and use legislation to implement what the people want.

Some ideologies are using the divisive approach.  Trump is using a divisive approach. Minorities are them.  You send escalating troops into black controlled areas to instigate violence.  Trump supporters go in and instigate violence.  The Boogaloo Bois are also attempting to start provoking violence.  The racist violent cops use violence to keep minorities oppressed.  I see this as much akin the the Nazi of the last crisis.  You use violence to acquire living space while oppressing or killing the Jew or the Slav.  The level of violence is different, and it is the blacks and Latinos that are the oppressed minorities, but it is much the same.  The difference is between gas chambers full of minorities as opposed to one minority at a time, face to the asphalt, and a knee to the neck.

Biden and most blues are attempting to resolve the differences using non violence.  Biden has explicitly denounced the violence, as have most blues.  Now, the ideological difference between reds and blues is not universal.  There are individual variations.  On the whole. though, the blues would prefer the demonstrate and legislate approach.  the reds the divide and use violence approach.  Continued violence, oppression, destruction.

Now I am not one to say the last crisis is just like this one.  Hitler is not Trump or vice versa.  It is not difficult to tell the difference between the Nazi of the last crisis and the Republicans of today.  But on the bottom line, the bad guys, the Nazi and the Republicans, are provoking violence and advocating racism.  I would include the Trump's federal secret police, the Trump 'militia' supporters going into neighborhoods with paint ball guns and real guns, and the racist cops murdering people on whim due to skin pigmentation.  The Boogaloo Bois attempting to start their boogaloo also are bad guys seeking division and violence, but they are not acting out of similar motives.  The two arrested men calling themselves both Boogaloo Bois and militia do not quite bring the two violent factions seeking a violent resolution together.    

The good guys at least today are bringing together and seeking to resolve things through legislation.  This step doesn't seem to be advancing pending control of the senate and White House.  Most try to save violence as a last resort.  I'm not sure four more years of Trump would encourage patience by those trying to avoid violence.  Last resorts are known to become the remaining resort.  But we'll wait on the November election and the Trump reaction before guessing what will happen.  It is a little early to count chickens or to guess which of Trump's options he will take, though not too early to consider what steps might become necessary.

So, where do you stand on this?  Do you support continued racist violence and division as the Nazi did?  You seem to be coming down on the hunter gatherer rather than Information Age side and determined not to understand the motives of the good guys.  I suppose that is necessary if you are going to be a bad guy determined to advocate division, racism, oppression, violence.