Generational Dynamics World View

[Bob Butler 54]

(09-08-2020, 10:31 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

(09-08-2020, 03:07 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: So, where do you stand on this?  Do you support continued racist violence and division as the Nazi did?

What are you talking about?  If  you think that I support racist violence and division, then you are really screwed up.

In the last week or so, the great revelation among many media has been how Trump lacks military values.  Roughy, these are honor, duty, sacrifice and loyalty to the country.  They are not just weak in Trump, they are missing.  He cannot understand or value an argument based on these values.  They elude him.  They seem stupid.  Trump assumes those holding military values are idiots.

To some degree values are taught.  If you believe Mary Trump, Trump's father just did not have these values, and thus did not teach them to the Donald.  Trump could fake them.  He could visit cemeteries a lot, salute snappily when leaving Marine One, etc…. But it is a little late for him to really absorb them.  His spine will not automatically straighten at the sight of the flag.  His hair will not stand on end when he sees a disabled veteran who has made a visible sacrifice.  There is just a hole where the military values should be.  They simply do not exist.

This is a flaw in a Republican politician.  Oh, Democrats too.  While it is a point of honor not to show too much partisanship in uniform, and while the Republicans since Mao won have been the strong on defense party, there are people both red and blue that consider the military values important to have.

But if they are not taught in your youth, they can be missing.  If your family does not have a strong tradition of service, these values may be weaker, still there, but not as strong as among, say, the McCain family.

Now I have been into what I call the arrow of progress.  This centers on another set of values: democracy, human rights, equality and justice.  I associate these with the enlightenment.  I will note that since the enlightenment the new values will generally triumph come the 4T heart.

But like the military values, they have to be taught.  They can be missing.  Many consider them necessary and appropriate, especially among the New England roundhead culture, those that live in the City on a Hill.  If these values are missing, the person who has a hole where the values ought to be might be considered flawed.  The family that doesn’t teach them to one’s children lacks something critical.

What happens if you try to turn them around?  What is the arrow of stagnation?  If the roundhead culture triumphs in the 4T, how would one follow an arrow pointing to the failed culture which is abandoned in the crisis and stomped on in the high?

Well, the opposite of favoring democracy is leaning towards autocracy.  If you have a bunch of autocratic friends, want to become dictator for life too, and try to bypass the constitution’s checks and balances, that would be a clue.

The opposites of the other three - human rights, equality, and justice - seem to have a shared opposite in racism.  People of a different skin pigmentation are not valued as highly.  There is a separate justice system which oppresses minorities.  Minorities endure violence and harsh treatment.  Wealth is steered to a handful of people. Women are marginalized, treated as objects.

Authoritarianism and racism are values too.  Like the military values,  you have to be carefully taught* the cavalier values.  You can be taught that America has always been for a white protestants.  Boys will always be boys.  The violence is always going to happen.  Racism and elitism can be taught as values to the exclusion of democracy, human rights, equality and justice.  The way things have always been is the way they will always be.

If you are a true Christian, and love thy neighbor, and you understand that the parable of the good Samaritan indicates everyone equally is your neighbor, your values are likely compatible with the arrow of progress.  If you are an American, and your spine goes straight when you hear the words ‘all men are created equal’, and you understand all men should include minorities and women too, your values are apt to line up with the arrow of progress.

And I seem to be facing the opposite here.  I am attempting to debate someone who just cannot comprehend the arrow of progress values.  There is nothing there.  Any argument that relies on those values will not only be disregarded.  There is a hole were they ought to be.  There will be a total inability to comprehend what I am talking about.  If I hold highly these values I am considered stupid, an idiot.  If you are ideologically blind, if you have ideological lack of certain values, you become unable to comprehend someone who holds these values.

On Earth Two, America was created of, by and for white protestants.  The other races and religions are not equal.  Things being otherwise is incomprehensible.  Any argument that involves the arrow of progress values puts an intolerable stress on the Earth Two brain.  The holder is unable to comprehend an argument based on those values.

I will address the various groups advocating violence in a separate post, but there seems to be enough ground covered for the moment.

*  Gee.  And I have already invoked Happy Talk from the same musical.