11-01-2020, 03:17 PM
** 01-Nov-2020 World View: Illegal China-Vietnam migrants
Here are the articles referenced in the video:
-- Vietnam Cracks Down on Growing Wave of Migrant Workers From China
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/w...11656.html
(Radio Free Asia, 29-Oct-2020)
-- China floods its villages to save its cities. Chinese media praises
the supreme sacrifice of the villages
https://tfipost.com/2020/08/china-floods...-villages/
(TFIPost, India, 4-Aug-2020)
-- Over 100 Chinese Migrant Workers Detained for Illegally Entering
Vietnam
https://www.theepochtimes.com/over-100-c...57220.html
(Epoch Times, 29-Oct-2020)
Normally, China encourages Chinese to move to other countries to get
employment, and to establish a local Chinese enclave that can be used
to spy and control the local politics. This has been a specific
policy with the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and debt trap
diplomacy, where China can use overdue debts and the diaspora to
control the politicians.
Vietnam is different. There's no BRI. North Vietnam can already
be thought of as a large Chinese enclave, except that the North
Vietnamese and the Chinese hate each other, and could go to war again
at any time, especially in the South China Sea.
During the Second Indochina War (what we call the "Vietnam War"), the
Chinese wanted the North and the South to remain separate countries,
since they they didn't want a united Vietnam on their southern border.
But the Soviets wanted the North to defeat the South and unify
Vietnam, so they provided a lot of military support to the North
Vietnamese. This led to the war that followed the Second Indochina
War, namely the extremely genocidal and bloody Vietnam-Cambodia-China
war, where China was supporting Cambodia, and the Soviets were
supporting Vietnam.
So if the news is true that the Chinese are planning to build a wall
along the entire China-North Vietnam border are true, that would be
quite dramatic, and would indicate that the Chinese are actually
afraid of Vietnam in some way -- perhaps they see a new China-Vietnam
or Vietnam-Cambodia war coming.
Nonetheless, it's hard for me to see why a few hundred illegal
migrants would cause that level of alarm. Maybe the Chinese are
afraid that an open border will allow the Wuhan Coronavirus to come
into China from North Vietnam. But it seems to me that there must be
something else going on that's not described by the media reports.
That further issue might be the continuing Hong Kong crisis.
Cantonese-speaking Guangdong province is adjacent to Hong Kong, and is
the crucible of the last two major anti-government rebellions. The
last two of these massive rebellions were the the Taiping Rebellion
(1850-64) and Mao's Communist Revolution (1934-49) -- and both of
these rebellions began in Guangdong province and spread north.
I've speculated in the past that the Hong Kong protests could spread
into Guangdong province and spark a new anti-Beijing rebellion. I
know that the CCP thugs are also concerned about that, so if it's
really true that the CCP is planning to build a wall along the Vietnam
border, then it would most likely be that the CCP thugs are worried
that Vietnam might support an anti-Beijing rebellion from the south.
And I have no doubt that Vietnam would.
Tensions are continuing to grow. Just today, Beijing arrested 7
pro-democracy legislators in Hong Kong on trumped up charges. This is
going to infuriate a lot of people in Guangdong. If there's a high
unemployment rate in Guangdong, because Chinese firms have fled to
Vietnam to escape US tariffs, then the possibility of an anti-Beijing
rebellion supported by Vietnam grows, and perhaps that's the real
story.
Taking this one step further, North Vietnam now loves the US, and is
an ally. So building the wall may be part of the CCP's larger war
plans.
utahbob Wrote:> Interesting video. It is from India in English, so target audience
> is Americans or Indians in America. It does not paint a pretty
> picture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn5SGkaKQGw
Here are the articles referenced in the video:
-- Vietnam Cracks Down on Growing Wave of Migrant Workers From China
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/w...11656.html
(Radio Free Asia, 29-Oct-2020)
-- China floods its villages to save its cities. Chinese media praises
the supreme sacrifice of the villages
https://tfipost.com/2020/08/china-floods...-villages/
(TFIPost, India, 4-Aug-2020)
-- Over 100 Chinese Migrant Workers Detained for Illegally Entering
Vietnam
https://www.theepochtimes.com/over-100-c...57220.html
(Epoch Times, 29-Oct-2020)
Normally, China encourages Chinese to move to other countries to get
employment, and to establish a local Chinese enclave that can be used
to spy and control the local politics. This has been a specific
policy with the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and debt trap
diplomacy, where China can use overdue debts and the diaspora to
control the politicians.
Vietnam is different. There's no BRI. North Vietnam can already
be thought of as a large Chinese enclave, except that the North
Vietnamese and the Chinese hate each other, and could go to war again
at any time, especially in the South China Sea.
During the Second Indochina War (what we call the "Vietnam War"), the
Chinese wanted the North and the South to remain separate countries,
since they they didn't want a united Vietnam on their southern border.
But the Soviets wanted the North to defeat the South and unify
Vietnam, so they provided a lot of military support to the North
Vietnamese. This led to the war that followed the Second Indochina
War, namely the extremely genocidal and bloody Vietnam-Cambodia-China
war, where China was supporting Cambodia, and the Soviets were
supporting Vietnam.
So if the news is true that the Chinese are planning to build a wall
along the entire China-North Vietnam border are true, that would be
quite dramatic, and would indicate that the Chinese are actually
afraid of Vietnam in some way -- perhaps they see a new China-Vietnam
or Vietnam-Cambodia war coming.
Nonetheless, it's hard for me to see why a few hundred illegal
migrants would cause that level of alarm. Maybe the Chinese are
afraid that an open border will allow the Wuhan Coronavirus to come
into China from North Vietnam. But it seems to me that there must be
something else going on that's not described by the media reports.
That further issue might be the continuing Hong Kong crisis.
Cantonese-speaking Guangdong province is adjacent to Hong Kong, and is
the crucible of the last two major anti-government rebellions. The
last two of these massive rebellions were the the Taiping Rebellion
(1850-64) and Mao's Communist Revolution (1934-49) -- and both of
these rebellions began in Guangdong province and spread north.
I've speculated in the past that the Hong Kong protests could spread
into Guangdong province and spark a new anti-Beijing rebellion. I
know that the CCP thugs are also concerned about that, so if it's
really true that the CCP is planning to build a wall along the Vietnam
border, then it would most likely be that the CCP thugs are worried
that Vietnam might support an anti-Beijing rebellion from the south.
And I have no doubt that Vietnam would.
Tensions are continuing to grow. Just today, Beijing arrested 7
pro-democracy legislators in Hong Kong on trumped up charges. This is
going to infuriate a lot of people in Guangdong. If there's a high
unemployment rate in Guangdong, because Chinese firms have fled to
Vietnam to escape US tariffs, then the possibility of an anti-Beijing
rebellion supported by Vietnam grows, and perhaps that's the real
story.
Taking this one step further, North Vietnam now loves the US, and is
an ally. So building the wall may be part of the CCP's larger war
plans.
