11-03-2020, 10:23 AM
** 03-Nov-2020 World View: North Vietnamese Communist genocide of South Vietnam
My heart sank when I read this, because I know exactly what you're
saying. You're saying what everyone on the left says -- that the
North Vietnam Communist genocide of the South Vietnam "élites" was
perfectly ok because genocide is perfectly ok to establish a socialist
paradise.
I'm really so sick of hearing this kind of garbage in support of
violence, ethnic cleansing and genocide. It's the same way that the
Nazis justified killing the Jews or how Democrats today justify the
antifa-blm fascists burning down cities. It's become very depressing
to me.
I'm not sure what "élites" you're talking about in South Vietnam,
since they were already dead from the invasion of Saigon. The massive
genocide by the North Vietnamese Communists was conducted against
ordinary people, even people who had been sympathetic to the Communist
cause, and especially small landowners who were trying to use their
small farms to support their families, and were thrown off their land
by the Communists murderers.
Prior to America's betrayal of the South Vietnam democracy, led by the
antiwar leftists, the South Vietnamese people had been looking forward
to a bright future, provided that the Communist invasion could be
defeated. They hoped to enjoy prosperity and democracy similar to
what developed in Taiwan, South Korea, and Thailand. Instead, under
the Communists, ordinary people were beaten, tortured, raped or killed
by the socialist blessing. Hundreds of thousands of "Vietnamese Boat
People" fled Vietnam in rickety boats, flooding Malaysia, Hong Kong,
and Indonesia, and eventually the US and Canada.
North Vietnam sent administrators to Saigon to establish a new regime.
Officials in the defeated government were killed, and hundreds of
thousands of people were sent to concentration camps, ostensibly to
re-educate them to live in a socialist society. A system of
registering the population was instituted to ensure that those whose
families had supported the Second Republic were penalized by denial of
employment, education, and food rations. An ambitious plan for
economic development was initiated, but within three years the country
was facing political, economic, and diplomatic failures. This was
just as disastrous as China's Great Leap Forward. These failures
became parts of a crisis that led to a new war.
So it's not surprising to me that you consider all of that to be
ok, because anything is ok to produce a wonderful socialist paradise.
You've also confirmed my original point: That all of the above history
of the North Vietnam Communist genocide has been censored and
suppressed by the antiwar left and the mainstream media and mainstream
leftist historians. It's the same as today, where the mainstream
media and the Democrats are suppressing news of the antifa-blm fascist
violence and news of Biden's criminality. You can find all of the
above information online, but you have to search hard for it.
Latest news: Maxine Waters says she will never ever forgive black men
who vote for Trump. Lol! What a jackass she is.
(11-02-2020, 09:08 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: > Your problem is that you think that the Vietnam War ended in
> 1975. That was just a prelude to the real war, which ran from
> 1975-1985.
(11-03-2020, 05:50 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: > It was over for the US. After that, the people overcame the
> elites as one would expect. The old thinking was dominated by
> xenophobia, tribalism and genocide, so the result wasn't pretty.
> That many are still obsessed with that way of going about things
> is a problem.
My heart sank when I read this, because I know exactly what you're
saying. You're saying what everyone on the left says -- that the
North Vietnam Communist genocide of the South Vietnam "élites" was
perfectly ok because genocide is perfectly ok to establish a socialist
paradise.
I'm really so sick of hearing this kind of garbage in support of
violence, ethnic cleansing and genocide. It's the same way that the
Nazis justified killing the Jews or how Democrats today justify the
antifa-blm fascists burning down cities. It's become very depressing
to me.
I'm not sure what "élites" you're talking about in South Vietnam,
since they were already dead from the invasion of Saigon. The massive
genocide by the North Vietnamese Communists was conducted against
ordinary people, even people who had been sympathetic to the Communist
cause, and especially small landowners who were trying to use their
small farms to support their families, and were thrown off their land
by the Communists murderers.
Prior to America's betrayal of the South Vietnam democracy, led by the
antiwar leftists, the South Vietnamese people had been looking forward
to a bright future, provided that the Communist invasion could be
defeated. They hoped to enjoy prosperity and democracy similar to
what developed in Taiwan, South Korea, and Thailand. Instead, under
the Communists, ordinary people were beaten, tortured, raped or killed
by the socialist blessing. Hundreds of thousands of "Vietnamese Boat
People" fled Vietnam in rickety boats, flooding Malaysia, Hong Kong,
and Indonesia, and eventually the US and Canada.
North Vietnam sent administrators to Saigon to establish a new regime.
Officials in the defeated government were killed, and hundreds of
thousands of people were sent to concentration camps, ostensibly to
re-educate them to live in a socialist society. A system of
registering the population was instituted to ensure that those whose
families had supported the Second Republic were penalized by denial of
employment, education, and food rations. An ambitious plan for
economic development was initiated, but within three years the country
was facing political, economic, and diplomatic failures. This was
just as disastrous as China's Great Leap Forward. These failures
became parts of a crisis that led to a new war.
So it's not surprising to me that you consider all of that to be
ok, because anything is ok to produce a wonderful socialist paradise.
You've also confirmed my original point: That all of the above history
of the North Vietnam Communist genocide has been censored and
suppressed by the antiwar left and the mainstream media and mainstream
leftist historians. It's the same as today, where the mainstream
media and the Democrats are suppressing news of the antifa-blm fascist
violence and news of Biden's criminality. You can find all of the
above information online, but you have to search hard for it.
Latest news: Maxine Waters says she will never ever forgive black men
who vote for Trump. Lol! What a jackass she is.
