Generational Dynamics World View

[Bob Butler 54]

(11-26-2020, 02:04 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: Oh no, troll.  You're the one who responds to every logical and factual argument with personal attacks and emotional garbage.  You particularly do that whenever you see a chance to reinterpret the news in some bizarre way to attack Trump or his 74 million supporters, people who have obviously driven you to the edge of insanity.  If you never produce anything but troll garbage, people will not want to interact with you.

Again, Trump’s followers lost.  Trump was fired.  He is among a bunch of losers.  They lost in both the popular and electoral collage vote.  If the demographic shifts continue, they will continue to lose.  That doesn’t surprise me.  In a crisis, the old conservative values generally do fade.

I have endorsed Generational Dynamic’s strengths in intensive research in parts of the world where tribal thinking is still dominant.  I have warned of the weakness.  It has partisanship against WEIRD thinking, a lack of understanding of many perspectives, basically any perspective which conflicts with your own.  I have repeated that to understand a problem, a working understanding of all perspectives associated with the problem is needed or you will misunderstand the problem.  I believe most people read your junk and intuitively understand this.

What is the responding relationship to my thinking?  I suppose you have a red partisan’s belief that I should be more of a red partisan.  The red and blue perspectives have been debated often enough in these forums that you should understand that a shift is unlikely and hard to argue.  The red position is loaded with elitism, racism, voodoo economics, and a well beyond the point of diminishing return favoring of small government.  The Republicans do understand the need to deter autocratic military expansionism, basically tribal thinking.  I have sympathy in some areas.  Still, since Trump has come in they have pushed Russian interest and been hostile to China.  

But overall, I am far more with the urban, equality, roundhead tradition rather than the rural, pro WASP cavalier view.  Both, however, have contributed heavily to the United States.

But basically I believe you can’t understand a problem until you make an honest attempt to understand the way all participants in the situation view it.  Generational Dynamics is a decent perspective, but it fails in its assigning of false parody straw man views of what various people are trying to do.  If you retain the blatant partisanship, people will reject you as a partisan and not take anything you write seriously.

At any rate, I do not have trouble interacting.  I am not the social pariah between us.  My rejection of elitist, racist, voodoo economics and all the other Republican traditions could be defended easily enough if you really wanted me too.  It would be certainly more constructive than your emotional tantrums.

Basically, tribal thinking worked great for Genghis Kahn.  It worked less well for Napoleon, though he managed to kill a lot of people and retain power in France for a time.  It really didn't work for Hitler.  Conquest was cost effective in the Agricultural Age.  With machine guns, nukes, insurgency and proxy war, not so much today.  Generational Dynamics with its obsession with xenophobia and ignoring the role of leaders and elites in maximizing power will be able to make good predictions in ever shrinking parts of the world.  It works fine where people don't remember what happened last time tribal thinking was tried.  Eventually, people will remember.