04-29-2021, 08:52 AM
** 26-Apr-2021 World View: Turkey and China
We've had this discussion before, but though you may be right, I have
a great deal of difficulty accepting this conclusion. Turkey's
brothers and cousins, the Turkic people, are spread across Central
Asia, and the Uighurs and Kazakhs are being tortured, raped, beaten
and enslaved in China by the millions, in the most horrific war crimes
since the 1930s.
Erdogan wants to pretend this isn't happening, but the Turkish people
don't always agree. This was obvious earlier this month when the
Mayor of Ankara shut off the water supply to the Chinese embassy.
*** 11-Apr-2021 World View: China's Uighur problem
http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=60229#p60229
There's no way that the Turkish people are simply going to side with
China against China's enemies, except in narrow circumstances.
Turkey is in a unique geographic location, at the crossroads of
Europe, Asia and the Middle East. If you think about it, Turkey is
going to be facing at least a three-front war:
And we still have to add Armenia, Syria's Alawites, and some old
Ottoman enemies.
So I can imagine all sorts of possible scenarios for Turkey. It might
be fighting one of those fronts, or all three either consecutively or
sequentially.
I heard an analyst on TV today say that China has established BRI
projects in 51 of 54 African countries, making each of these countries
a kind of "China lite," complete with arms, weapons and massively
expensive infrastructure projects.
A few months ago, I wrote about:
** 16-Dec-20 World View -- China's delusional geopolitical strategy
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e201216
The summary is this: Guided by China's leadership, countries
throughout Africa, Asia and the Mideast will put aside their
disagreements. Old hatreds will be mended by necessity, to attract
capital for investments. These include countries like Iran, Saudi
Arabia, India, and Pakistan. China will create a "global colossal,"
of dozens of countries in a massive multi-country partnership, bound
together by China's Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). One nation after
another will make concession to "mend old hatreds," except that China
will not make a single concession.
According to the newsletter: "The big question is how America will
respond to the challenge of connecting so much of the world through
trade and peace. Their containment policy has failed so far. The
choice is either to join this more peaceful venture or to fight it.
If the latter choice is adopted it will result in a global war between
America and its remaining allies and the combined forces of China and
Russia."
This strategy assumes that Turkey and those 51 African nations will
all fall in line behind China. This is a joke, and is a particularly
delusional fantasy because China has pissed off everyone in the world
by infecting them with the Wuhan Coronavirus.
So will Turkey fight against the US alongside China? Anything is
possible, but I don't think so.
DaKardii Wrote:> Turkey is threatening to leave NATO and ally with China, Russia,
> and Iran over Biden’s Armenian Genocide statements.
> Alas, in the end Turkey will be allied with just China when the
> war begins.
> https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/turkeys-...sia-666263
We've had this discussion before, but though you may be right, I have
a great deal of difficulty accepting this conclusion. Turkey's
brothers and cousins, the Turkic people, are spread across Central
Asia, and the Uighurs and Kazakhs are being tortured, raped, beaten
and enslaved in China by the millions, in the most horrific war crimes
since the 1930s.
Erdogan wants to pretend this isn't happening, but the Turkish people
don't always agree. This was obvious earlier this month when the
Mayor of Ankara shut off the water supply to the Chinese embassy.
*** 11-Apr-2021 World View: China's Uighur problem
http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=60229#p60229
There's no way that the Turkish people are simply going to side with
China against China's enemies, except in narrow circumstances.
Turkey is in a unique geographic location, at the crossroads of
Europe, Asia and the Middle East. If you think about it, Turkey is
going to be facing at least a three-front war:
- Against China in Central Asia
- Against Russia in Crimea and the Caucasus
- Against Europe in the Balkans
And we still have to add Armenia, Syria's Alawites, and some old
Ottoman enemies.
So I can imagine all sorts of possible scenarios for Turkey. It might
be fighting one of those fronts, or all three either consecutively or
sequentially.
I heard an analyst on TV today say that China has established BRI
projects in 51 of 54 African countries, making each of these countries
a kind of "China lite," complete with arms, weapons and massively
expensive infrastructure projects.
A few months ago, I wrote about:
** 16-Dec-20 World View -- China's delusional geopolitical strategy
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/x...tm#e201216
The summary is this: Guided by China's leadership, countries
throughout Africa, Asia and the Mideast will put aside their
disagreements. Old hatreds will be mended by necessity, to attract
capital for investments. These include countries like Iran, Saudi
Arabia, India, and Pakistan. China will create a "global colossal,"
of dozens of countries in a massive multi-country partnership, bound
together by China's Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). One nation after
another will make concession to "mend old hatreds," except that China
will not make a single concession.
According to the newsletter: "The big question is how America will
respond to the challenge of connecting so much of the world through
trade and peace. Their containment policy has failed so far. The
choice is either to join this more peaceful venture or to fight it.
If the latter choice is adopted it will result in a global war between
America and its remaining allies and the combined forces of China and
Russia."
This strategy assumes that Turkey and those 51 African nations will
all fall in line behind China. This is a joke, and is a particularly
delusional fantasy because China has pissed off everyone in the world
by infecting them with the Wuhan Coronavirus.
So will Turkey fight against the US alongside China? Anything is
possible, but I don't think so.
