05-07-2021, 05:43 AM
** 06-May-2021 World View: Khashoggi
The Democrats, led by shithead Adam Schiff, manufactured one lie after
another about Donald Trump. As each one was proven to be a lie, they
were never embarrassed, but just went on to the next one. That's what
was really sickening. So there are hundreds of these floating around
out there, and I know that you can resuscitate them faster than I have
the time or motivation to bat them down, so I'm probably just going to
give up with you.
However, let's consider Khashoggi. I was never impressed by the
Khashoggi killing, because it was really just a typical horrific
extrajudicial killing of a kind that I read about every day, that I
write about occasionally, and that are portrayed in the TV drama
series Criminal Minds.
The only thing special about the Khashoggi killing is that the details
were particularly gruesome, that the details were leaked, that
Khashoggi's fiancee was outside the embassy while it was going on, and
that Erdogan and the Washington Post were able to exploit the murder
for their poltical ends.
The Khashoggi murder may have been gruesome, but similarly gruesome
extrajudicial murders occur and have occurred in every country,
including America. A century ago, Democrats in the KKK performed
similarly gruesome extrajudicial murders on a regular basis. Here are
the lyrics to Billie Holliday's 1939 song, Strange Fruit:
So I'm not impressed by the Khashoggi murder. It's just a typical,
every day, horrific extrajudicial murder. Ho-hum.
With regard to Saudi policy, I consider it much more important to
maintain our commitment to stability in the Mideast, and particularly
the agreement we've had with the Saudis since the 1930s. As bad as
the Khashoggi murder is (though no worse than the murders depicted in
Strange Fruit), the continuity of foreign policy is more important
than one fairly typical extrajudicial murder.
But you have a very particular view of such things. You say this:
Being such an absolutist means, of course, that you're unable to
distinguish between a parking violation and a murder. It's also
politically convenient for you, because you can festoon your
"absolutist" view with whatever ideological or emotional enhancement
that you like. So you might say that that the parking violation is a
horrific crime because it blocks your car, but the murder is perfectly
ok, because you dislike the guy who was murdered. That's the
advantage of taking an absolutist view. You can adapt to anything you
want. It's the kind of trickery that the Democrats use.
Let's make a comparison. For me, Bashar al-Assad's genocide and
ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Arab Sunnis is infinitely
worse than the murder of just one individual, Khashoggi.
But not for you. Your "absolutist" view of the law means that Bashar
al-Assad's genocide and ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of
Arab Sunnis is legally equivalent to the murder of just one
individual, Khashoggi. In fact, I believe that in the past you've
defended al-Assad. He's just a poor, misunderstood opthamologist,
trying to make the world a better place. In fact, to you he's a
victim, because people like me accuse him of awful things, like being
the worst genocidal monster so far this century.
You would forget that he slaughters innocent civilians with Sarin gas,
chlorine gas, phosphorus and other chemical weapons. You would forget
that he pours missiles into children's dormitories, residential
neighborhoods, and marketplaces, in order to kill as many women and
children and possible. You would forget that he particularly targets
hospitals and medical facilities. You would forget that he tortured,
mutilated and killed some 50,000 prisoners in his private prison in
Damascus. Each one of these 50,000 mutilations and murders is
individually worse than the Khashoggi murder.
So you single out Saudi's King Salman as the criminal of the century
because of the Khashoggi murder, while you find Bashar al-Assad just
to be a poor victim of his time. That's taking your "absolutist" view
of the law and festooning it with your emotions. I take the opposite
view. I consider Salman to be an ordinary dictator, while Bashar
al-Assad is the genocidal monster of the century.
As I said, I can't keep up with you. You can find a million things to
blame Trump for -- just look up shithead Adam Schiff's stream of lies
-- and I have neither time more nor motivation to respond to them more
than occasionally.
Every example you've given turns out to have been wrong. Maybe Tulsi
Gabbard will be able to save you.
![[Image: eed9e62f5dc687b3347f01c30af4971af3275ab8-1600x1067.jpg]](https://cdn.sanity.io/images/t5b8uqc6/production/eed9e62f5dc687b3347f01c30af4971af3275ab8-1600x1067.jpg)
She'll probably be the hottest candidate in 2024, which means that she
can be forgiven, even if she's a warmonger.
DaKardii Wrote:> Nope. My current opinions are rooted in me listening to the Ron
> Paul wing of the GOP. I used to think those people were nuts, but
> after seeing Trump's bizarre reaction to the Khashoggi killing I
> began reconsidering that position.
The Democrats, led by shithead Adam Schiff, manufactured one lie after
another about Donald Trump. As each one was proven to be a lie, they
were never embarrassed, but just went on to the next one. That's what
was really sickening. So there are hundreds of these floating around
out there, and I know that you can resuscitate them faster than I have
the time or motivation to bat them down, so I'm probably just going to
give up with you.
However, let's consider Khashoggi. I was never impressed by the
Khashoggi killing, because it was really just a typical horrific
extrajudicial killing of a kind that I read about every day, that I
write about occasionally, and that are portrayed in the TV drama
series Criminal Minds.
The only thing special about the Khashoggi killing is that the details
were particularly gruesome, that the details were leaked, that
Khashoggi's fiancee was outside the embassy while it was going on, and
that Erdogan and the Washington Post were able to exploit the murder
for their poltical ends.
The Khashoggi murder may have been gruesome, but similarly gruesome
extrajudicial murders occur and have occurred in every country,
including America. A century ago, Democrats in the KKK performed
similarly gruesome extrajudicial murders on a regular basis. Here are
the lyrics to Billie Holliday's 1939 song, Strange Fruit:
Quote:> "[Verse 1]
> Southern trees bear a strange fruit
> Blood on the leaves and blood at the root
> Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze
> Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees
> [Verse 2]
> Pastoral scene of the gallant south
> The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth
> Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh
> Then the sudden smell of burning flesh
> [Verse 3]
> Here is a fruit for the crows to pluck
> For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck
> For the sun to rot, for the tree to drop
> Here is a strange and bitter crop"
So I'm not impressed by the Khashoggi murder. It's just a typical,
every day, horrific extrajudicial murder. Ho-hum.
With regard to Saudi policy, I consider it much more important to
maintain our commitment to stability in the Mideast, and particularly
the agreement we've had with the Saudis since the 1930s. As bad as
the Khashoggi murder is (though no worse than the murders depicted in
Strange Fruit), the continuity of foreign policy is more important
than one fairly typical extrajudicial murder.
But you have a very particular view of such things. You say this:
DaKardii Wrote:> I'm an absolutist when it comes to belief in rule of law. I'm
> opposed to selective enforcement in all cases, be it when
> it benefits the left or when it benefits the right.
Being such an absolutist means, of course, that you're unable to
distinguish between a parking violation and a murder. It's also
politically convenient for you, because you can festoon your
"absolutist" view with whatever ideological or emotional enhancement
that you like. So you might say that that the parking violation is a
horrific crime because it blocks your car, but the murder is perfectly
ok, because you dislike the guy who was murdered. That's the
advantage of taking an absolutist view. You can adapt to anything you
want. It's the kind of trickery that the Democrats use.
Let's make a comparison. For me, Bashar al-Assad's genocide and
ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of Arab Sunnis is infinitely
worse than the murder of just one individual, Khashoggi.
But not for you. Your "absolutist" view of the law means that Bashar
al-Assad's genocide and ethnic cleansing of hundreds of thousands of
Arab Sunnis is legally equivalent to the murder of just one
individual, Khashoggi. In fact, I believe that in the past you've
defended al-Assad. He's just a poor, misunderstood opthamologist,
trying to make the world a better place. In fact, to you he's a
victim, because people like me accuse him of awful things, like being
the worst genocidal monster so far this century.
You would forget that he slaughters innocent civilians with Sarin gas,
chlorine gas, phosphorus and other chemical weapons. You would forget
that he pours missiles into children's dormitories, residential
neighborhoods, and marketplaces, in order to kill as many women and
children and possible. You would forget that he particularly targets
hospitals and medical facilities. You would forget that he tortured,
mutilated and killed some 50,000 prisoners in his private prison in
Damascus. Each one of these 50,000 mutilations and murders is
individually worse than the Khashoggi murder.
So you single out Saudi's King Salman as the criminal of the century
because of the Khashoggi murder, while you find Bashar al-Assad just
to be a poor victim of his time. That's taking your "absolutist" view
of the law and festooning it with your emotions. I take the opposite
view. I consider Salman to be an ordinary dictator, while Bashar
al-Assad is the genocidal monster of the century.
As I said, I can't keep up with you. You can find a million things to
blame Trump for -- just look up shithead Adam Schiff's stream of lies
-- and I have neither time more nor motivation to respond to them more
than occasionally.
Every example you've given turns out to have been wrong. Maybe Tulsi
Gabbard will be able to save you.
- Tulsi Gabbard
She'll probably be the hottest candidate in 2024, which means that she
can be forgiven, even if she's a warmonger.
