06-27-2021, 11:30 PM
(06-27-2021, 08:59 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 27-Jun-2021 World View: Democrat Party trollery
(06-27-2021, 04:12 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: > By altering ballots after the fact the "auditors" in Arizona have
> effectively made any further audit impossible -- and theirs
> unreliable. Strike 1.
That's a lie. You forgot to say that the auditors are racist white
supremacist terrorist insurrectionists like all Trump supporters.
You're exhibiting the kind of hysteria from desperate Democrat Party
trolls that I was talking about.
Whether they are white supremacists or not matters not a whit. It is safe to assume that no insurrectionist has participated in the audit.
Any audit is rightly done by people with disinterest in the result of the audit.
Quote:(06-27-2021, 04:12 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: > Comment on how Media Bias Fact Check sees RedState. It is far to
> the Right, which is suspect in its own right.
Of course RedState is a conservative news source. Your pals in the
Democrat Party have set up a Stalinist Fascist censorship regime where
anyone who dares to report on the truth about the election fraud or
the truth about the "insurrection" hoax is canceled or destroyed. So
instead of criticizing RedState for being conservative, you should be
congratulating them for being willing to speak truth to power by
standing up to the vicious Stalinist Fascist Democrat Party censorship
regime.
The real heroes of today are those that speak truth to power, and who
stand up to the Fascist Democrat Party, and special notice must be
made of those brave parents standing up to the Fascist school boards
indoctrinating children with hate-filled Critical Race "Theory," just
as the Chinese Communists indoctrinate children in school to hate
Christians and Democracy.
What does the People's Republic of China or the Communist Party of China have to do with this?
"Critical Race Theory" is mostly a phantom, arcane buzzwords that some ivory-tower academics have passed around. Right-wingers have seen a few things that they dislike about it and they have chosen to use it as a cudgel against whatever challenges the beliefs they seek to foist upon the masses. The Hard Right is prone to its own sort of Inquisition against anything that gets in the way of its dream of pure plutocracy in which all people obey the economic elites or suffer dire consequences. Donald Trump exemplifies such.
Power does not reliably bring out morality, competence, decency, or charity among the elites toward the masses. This is as true from the shamans of hunter-gatherer to academic elites, or even among people whose ideologies are diametric opposites (on the one side, nobility, plutocratic tycoons, and business executives... or the bureaucratic nomenklatura of Commie regimes. Yes, commie hacks can exploit, too -- and no less badly than those who translate wealth into political power and political power into even more wealth.
The United States has a spotty record on ethnic equity, and it doesn't have to be as blatant as a lynching or overt slavery.
I have seen plenty of evidence, even before the January 6 Putsch, of despotic behavior by Donald Trump unprecedented in the history of the Presidency. Trump is Wilson bigotry, Harding corruption, Nixon dirty tricks, and Reagan reaction all together -- and intensified.
Quote:(06-27-2021, 04:12 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: > If you want to dispute a landslide margin, then you need proof of
> major dishonesty, like more people voting than votes counted, with
> a large number of votes destroyed or not transmitted.
The audits are apparently turning up proof of exactly that kind of
major dishonesty by the crooked Democrats in several states. I expect
the results of the audits to become public in the fall.
The integrity of the 2020 Presidential election is established by auditing of the mechanical processes of voting. It's practically impossible to cheat and get away with it. The voter fraud that has been caught has largely been people forging signatures on ballot applications for deceased parents or spouses. If you are thinking of election officials cheating or letting partisan hacks cheat by stealing votes, tampering with electoral devices, or stuffing voting devices, then consider the risks that such people are taking. All of that is serious crime that will cost them (1) their plum jobs, (2) monetary losses from fines, (3) shame, and (4) prison time. The usual criminal offender has little to lose, but more than he realizes. The election officials as a rule know that their involvement in the election is but a small part of their responsibility in jobs that pay very well and have low turnover.
Again, if my state (Michigan) is any indicator, cheating may not be impossible but the risks for a voter or a public official are just too high. There are strict controls of custody of voting devices. The only effective way in which to cheat is outsider tampering with electioneering by partisan entities as may have happened in 2016. May. There is evidence, and such did not seem to happen in 2020.
...An aside: computer hackers are the cyber-equivalent of burglars. Legal statutes against computer hackers are comparatively primitive in contrast to those against burglars. Burglars must usually do some physical break-in on site:
Bears use their cunning and brute force to do their break-ins, and someone in Montana told me that some bears are able to identify Ford and Honda vehicles that have special vulnerability to bears that GM and Chrysler vehicles do not have. As is so with an ursine or a human burglar, the burglar must get physical access to the dwelling, shed, business establishment, vehicle, boat, rail car, or aircraft to get to valuables or do harm to those within. Computer hackers can do their dirty work from thousands of miles away. Using political entities that no longer exist, a computer hacker might do many of the elements of the crime in the Austro-Hungarian Empire that do harm in the Dutch East Indies. It is often unclear which country's statutes apply to the specific actions.
Political interests have found ways in which to ensure that outsiders cannot tamper with their data. Election officials can ensure that vote counts are off line until official. If you want to see models for such, then check the appropriate texts on accounting.
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(06-27-2021, 04:12 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: > Give credit to public officials for doing everything possible to
> thwart any possible electoral fraud.
Lol! That's like giving credit to a rapist for doing everything
possible to thwart any possible rape, while he's in the middle of
raping your wife.
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Elected officials of both parties recognize that they can lose but do not tolerate their own losses through cheating. It works to the benefit of integrity.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
