08-10-2021, 07:43 AM
** 08-Aug-2021 World View: Was Chi Haotian's speech genuine?
I've been spending all my time researching exactly this issue. There
are actually two separate questions -- was the speech itself genuine,
and was the description of China's strategy as described in the speech
accurate.
As far as the speech itself, it was published in the Epoch Times in
2005, so there has been plenty of time for Chinese officials to
disavow the speech. Chi Haotian himself is still alive, 88 years old
when he appeared at the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party
of China on September 18, 2017. So Chi has had years to disavow the
speech, but has never done so. The speech has been floating around
the internet since then, and has appeared in other places. For
example, two days ago Christoph Becker in this very forum thread
provided a link to his blog in 2015 that referenced the speech. So
there is absolutely no question that the document is real.
So there's no doubt about the authenticity of the speech. Ironically,
the question is whether the speech is Chinese disinformation,
designed to deceive and deflect from China's real intentions. I guess
that's possible, but it's hard to see what it deflects from, since
what it contains is so awful.
So the next question is: Can we validate the contents of the speech
from other sources?
First, is China planning a nuclear attack on the US? That's been
pretty obvious for years, as China has produced one nuclear weapons
system after another that could only be used to attack the US.
The Federation of American Scientists discovered that China has
recently built hundreds of missile silos. This suggests that the
massive nuclear attack to conquer America "in one blow" is getting
very close.
-- China Is Building A Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2021/07/c...ilo-field/
(FederationAmericanScientists/FAS, 26-Jul-2021)
So that pretty much proves that China is planning a large nuclear
attack on the US.
Second, has China been developing biological weapons? Yes, especially
since the end of WW II. Here's a paper I found from 2002 that goes
into extensive detail about China's chemical and biological weapons
programs. It's from the Chemical and Biological Weapons
Nonproliferation Program, Center for Nonproliferation Studies,
Monterey Institute of International Studies.
-- China’s Role in the Chemical and Biological Disarmament Regimes --
Eric Croddy
https://www.nonproliferation.org/wp-cont...91crod.pdf
(NonProliferation.org, March 2002:
It was interesting to me to read that China accused the US of hiring
Japanese bio weapons experts from WW II and used chemical weapons
during the Korean War against the North Koreans and even on Chinese
territory. These claims were debunked, but China kept using them,
probably for domestic purposes to justify their own bio weapons
research.
So it's clear that as of 2002, China was actively developing bio
weapons. So the claims about bio weapons made by Chi Haotian in his
2003 speech are quite credible.
Third, is China still developing bioweapons today? Well, nobody would
seriously suggest that China would stop developing any sort of weapons
technology, so of course China is still developing bioweapons today.
But now we have absolute proof with the Wuhan Virus Event. It's now
pretty universally agreed (outside of China) that the Wuhan virus was
developed in the Wuhan lab, and released into the public. I believe
that the release was intentional, but many people believe it was
accidental. It doesn't really matter which is true, since the outcome
is what's important -- that China intentionally spread the virus to
180 countries, while protecting China.
Jeff Nyquist in his blog traced the development of Covid-19 back to an
NCoV discovered by Saudi doctors in 2012, which the Chinese stole from
the Saudis.
-- General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar?
https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/30/genera...or-biowar/
(JRNYquist, 30-Jan-2020)
Fourth, what about the overall strategy -- a massive nuclear attack on
the United States, following by the use of bioweapons to "clean up
America" for colonization by the Chinese?
We can't prove that the CCP is currently planning this strategy,
except by the circumstantial evidence that all the pieces are in place
for this, and China seems to be preparing for it.
Nyquist does an extensive analysis of this, pointing out that China
has developed a large and growing fleet of amphibious transport ships,
each capable of transporting 1,000 troops.
-- What President Trump Must Do to Stop China’s Invasion
https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/04/17/what-p...-invasion/
(JRNYquist, 17-Apr-2020)
So my personal conclusion, based on a great deal of the evidence from
a large and growing body of research that I've collected, is that the
speech attributed to Chi Haotian is valid, and that its contents are
fully validated.
Trevor Wrote:> I do have a question about whether this speech is the genuine
> article, given how much nonsense circulates around the
> internet. Admittedly, it's not much of a stretch, given what the
> CCPs done since taking power, but I do wonder.
I've been spending all my time researching exactly this issue. There
are actually two separate questions -- was the speech itself genuine,
and was the description of China's strategy as described in the speech
accurate.
As far as the speech itself, it was published in the Epoch Times in
2005, so there has been plenty of time for Chinese officials to
disavow the speech. Chi Haotian himself is still alive, 88 years old
when he appeared at the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party
of China on September 18, 2017. So Chi has had years to disavow the
speech, but has never done so. The speech has been floating around
the internet since then, and has appeared in other places. For
example, two days ago Christoph Becker in this very forum thread
provided a link to his blog in 2015 that referenced the speech. So
there is absolutely no question that the document is real.
So there's no doubt about the authenticity of the speech. Ironically,
the question is whether the speech is Chinese disinformation,
designed to deceive and deflect from China's real intentions. I guess
that's possible, but it's hard to see what it deflects from, since
what it contains is so awful.
So the next question is: Can we validate the contents of the speech
from other sources?
First, is China planning a nuclear attack on the US? That's been
pretty obvious for years, as China has produced one nuclear weapons
system after another that could only be used to attack the US.
The Federation of American Scientists discovered that China has
recently built hundreds of missile silos. This suggests that the
massive nuclear attack to conquer America "in one blow" is getting
very close.
-- China Is Building A Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2021/07/c...ilo-field/
(FederationAmericanScientists/FAS, 26-Jul-2021)
So that pretty much proves that China is planning a large nuclear
attack on the US.
Second, has China been developing biological weapons? Yes, especially
since the end of WW II. Here's a paper I found from 2002 that goes
into extensive detail about China's chemical and biological weapons
programs. It's from the Chemical and Biological Weapons
Nonproliferation Program, Center for Nonproliferation Studies,
Monterey Institute of International Studies.
-- China’s Role in the Chemical and Biological Disarmament Regimes --
Eric Croddy
https://www.nonproliferation.org/wp-cont...91crod.pdf
(NonProliferation.org, March 2002:
It was interesting to me to read that China accused the US of hiring
Japanese bio weapons experts from WW II and used chemical weapons
during the Korean War against the North Koreans and even on Chinese
territory. These claims were debunked, but China kept using them,
probably for domestic purposes to justify their own bio weapons
research.
So it's clear that as of 2002, China was actively developing bio
weapons. So the claims about bio weapons made by Chi Haotian in his
2003 speech are quite credible.
Third, is China still developing bioweapons today? Well, nobody would
seriously suggest that China would stop developing any sort of weapons
technology, so of course China is still developing bioweapons today.
But now we have absolute proof with the Wuhan Virus Event. It's now
pretty universally agreed (outside of China) that the Wuhan virus was
developed in the Wuhan lab, and released into the public. I believe
that the release was intentional, but many people believe it was
accidental. It doesn't really matter which is true, since the outcome
is what's important -- that China intentionally spread the virus to
180 countries, while protecting China.
Jeff Nyquist in his blog traced the development of Covid-19 back to an
NCoV discovered by Saudi doctors in 2012, which the Chinese stole from
the Saudis.
-- General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar?
https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/30/genera...or-biowar/
(JRNYquist, 30-Jan-2020)
Fourth, what about the overall strategy -- a massive nuclear attack on
the United States, following by the use of bioweapons to "clean up
America" for colonization by the Chinese?
We can't prove that the CCP is currently planning this strategy,
except by the circumstantial evidence that all the pieces are in place
for this, and China seems to be preparing for it.
Nyquist does an extensive analysis of this, pointing out that China
has developed a large and growing fleet of amphibious transport ships,
each capable of transporting 1,000 troops.
-- What President Trump Must Do to Stop China’s Invasion
https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/04/17/what-p...-invasion/
(JRNYquist, 17-Apr-2020)
So my personal conclusion, based on a great deal of the evidence from
a large and growing body of research that I've collected, is that the
speech attributed to Chi Haotian is valid, and that its contents are
fully validated.
