08-27-2021, 12:27 AM
(08-26-2021, 11:21 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 26-Aug-2021 World View: Ashli Babbitt's killer comes forward
(08-26-2021, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote: > The extortion of the Ukrainian President was witnessed by many and
> beyond dispute. Where, exactly, is the hoax?
I've explained all this to you before, but I know you suffer from
memory lapses, so I'll try again.
Unlike you, I actually watched the Ukraine hearings. Adam Schiff who
lied on a daily basis, made up a phony transcript of a phone call
between Trump and Ukraine's president. Trump was then able to release
the actual transcript, making Schiff look like a piece of garbage, but
that never stopped him.
Your assumption is that Donald Trump is the definitive truth because he is Donald Trump. Trump is an inveterate, pathological, self-serving liar. He is in the league of people who say things such as "Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?". No. Truth is a personal choice, and it is not an attribute of a person. It is at most a habit, one to be cultivated.
If one uses Donald Trump as the definition of truth, then just about everyone is a liar. Using Donald Trump as the definitive truth is like using a lunatic as a definition of sanity. Do you know one of the best tests of insanity? The insane consider themselves normal and normal people insane!
"Actual transcript"... huh? It could be a forgery, including a redaction that changes the meaning.
Quote:During the Ukraine hearings, every witness was forced to recant his
testimony under cross examination by the Republicans. But the
mainstream media lied about that every day, reporting "explosive
testimony."
Not what I recall.
Quote:The star witness, Ambassador Gordon Sondland originally said that
Schiff was wrong, but Oregon Democratic Rep. Earl Blumenauer incited
violence against Sondland's family and business, and he was forced to
change his testimony. However, the truth came out under Republican
cross-examination.
Sondland was basically a political appointee, and he knew little about diplomacy except as on-the-job training. His testimony was ambiguous. He was in the thankless position of having to serve two masters (the professional diplomatic corps and Donald Trump). Maybe if Trump didn't micromanage stuff in which he was incompetent and weren't so personally corrupt we would have had no first impeachment.
Blackmailing a foreign leader to do dirty work in American partisan politics is simply inexcusable. Trump had to be impeached even if such would be awkward for Democrats.
Quote:Jonathan Turley's family was also threatened with violence by
Democrats when he testified that the impeachment couldn't be
justified. Turley was proved right, when the whole case collapsed in
the Senate. So the whole Ukraine thing was a lie and a hoax.
As often appears in Wikipedia, [[citation needed]].
That the impeachment vote went almost completely along partisan lines demonstrates something other than vindication of President Trump.
Quote:(08-26-2021, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote: > H-m-m-m. Yes, the Chinese (primarily though there are others) are
> creating cheap fentanyl analogues and the Mexican cartels are
> bring them in. You do understand that a pound of fentanyl is
> roughly the equivalent of 1,000 to 10,000 pounds of morphine. It's
> easy to smuggle.
So we agree.
(08-26-2021, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote: > At least we're fact based, unlike yourself.
You're full of crap. You look at youtube videos and declare a
peaceful protest to be an "insurrection". You're not stating facts.
You're a sock puppet for Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff.
Am I to trust you, Mr. X, or "my lying eyes"? I have been at or by peaceful demonstrations, and I know what they look like. The Capitol Putsch looks like a peaceful demonstration about as much as a cat overpowering a mouse looks like an expression of kindness toward the mouse.
Quote:By the way, here's an amusing fact. I don't know much about this, but
apparently there are thousands of hours of video taken during the
so-called "insurrection" in the possession of the FBI that they're
refusing to release. It's believed that this video shows that the FBI
is guilty, especially now that there is "scant evidence" of an
insurrection by peaceful Trump supporters.
Embargoed for use by federal prosecutors in criminal prosedcutions.
Quote:One more amusing fact. We know that Lt. Michael Leroy Byrd, a black
officer of the Capitol police, on the staff of Nancy Pelosi, is the
man who murdered Ashli Babbitt, the young girl who was killed for
being a Trump supporter, as she climbed through a broken window.
However, Byrd's name has never been officially released.
Ashli Babbitt is not the "innocent young girl" as you depict her. She was 39, so she was old enough to have teen-age children, and she was using military techniques to breach a defended perimeter. Use military techniques in the violation of the law and you are anything but innocent. She transmitted video that suggested that she knew what she was doing all along.
Quote:So now Byrd himself has come forward, and is going to be interviewed
on MSNBC tomorrow. Presumably he'll paint himself as the hero that
saved democracy from a dangerous woman who supports Trump.
You leave out some critical details. Multitudes still support Donald Trump without doing crime to back their support.
People simply milling around in the capitol building, I predict, will get slap-on-the-wrist sentences. They will get probation and fines, perhaps community service, and end up on a no-fly list and lose their passports. To be sure, ending up on a no-fly list practically ensures the end of some careers such as traveling salesmen and auditors. Bye-bye, CPA career.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
