Generational Dynamics World View

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(02-28-2022, 02:27 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-27-2022, 10:42 PM)galaxy Wrote:

(02-27-2022, 10:07 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-27-2022, 06:06 PM)galaxy Wrote:

(08-17-2021, 05:07 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: Believe me, when an ACTUAL regeneracy event
occurs, you won't have to ask.

This post has been much on my mind lately.

Sure looks like one, at least for the European 4T countries.

We have arrived at a point similar to when FDR declared the USA the arsenal of democracy.

Not the same turning, but I'm beginning to feel like Ukraine is acquiring the same symbolism as West Berlin had.

Everyone's posting "слава україні" all over the internet now...it's not much of a stretch to imagine that, if there had been internet in 1963, those posts would have been "ich bin ein berliner."

The speed and universality of the spreading of this news is something to behold. Everyone is talking about it. People I know who are completely apolitical and barely follow news know all the details. Regardless of how this ends, there is something big happening in the 4T West. This is not going to fizzle out and is not going to be forgotten.

It's also interesting to watch the behaviors of countries around this. For the West, even though they're technically not involved, it's obviously a 4T war, while for Ukraine it's very clearly a 1T war* (and it's only becoming more clear that the US History analogy is the War of 1812). While the West continues to panic, Ukraine continues to respond with a truly incredible level of calm and unity.

It really does look like regeneracy has arrived in Europe. Suddenly all these countries are relearning how to do quick and decisive action. They are quickly losing the 3T apathy that they've held onto deep into this turning. There seems to be almost a feeling of these countries "rediscovering" that such a thing is possible by "following Ukraine's example." The sense of general powerlessness against crises that has pervaded Western populations and governments since the 4T began may be beginning to weaken, and not a moment too soon.


*Ukraine's 1T very clearly began following the revolution in 2014. Russia's 1T may have also begun in 2014, or it may have been a few years earlier, but certainly no earlier than 2008 - in any case, 2014 is when the 1T mood became firmly set in place in the country, anything preceding was some level of 4/1 hybrid.

And as another saecular note which some may find useful, the actual fighters are mostly Adaptives (all of those under age 35-40 or so), and Zelensky is a Civic (born 1978, an equivalent birth year in the USA's cycle would be around 1992 or 1910, roughly).

Ukraine is the Checkoslovakia of this 4T. The turnings are nearly universal now. But certainly this is 4T for the America/British saeculum, and Europe is almost the same or maybe a year or two behind the USA. This can only be a 4T event for Ukraine, if the turnings have any meaning. This is a fight for survival. Ukraine is on Europe's cycle now, not Russia's. But Russia doesn't really have turnings, because it is an authoritarian state that never changes or grows. The saeculum only occurs in countries that progress through the planetary dynamic.

We've been over this...any society with a concept of "history" and "generation" will have turnings. That's almost every society in the modern world except for literal hunter-gatherers. Russia and Ukraine are both 1T, with their 4Ts beginning in the late 1980s or early 1990s and lasting until 2014.

Here's a map:



The whole 1T region entered a 4T around the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union. They all exited the 4T sometime between roughly 2006 and 2014 (general trend: further west = entered 1T earlier).

*Algeria entered a 3T in 2011 while most of the Arab countries entered a 4T. I'm not sure exactly how it ended up almost exactly one full turning behind all of its neighbors as well as its former colonizer, but it's definitely there.
*Ireland is having what must be the mildest 4T in all of history.