Election 2020

[Eric the Green]

(11-20-2019, 03:19 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(11-19-2019, 08:34 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The reality remains that there are not other such "someones" to find. Not a single one. Those who could achieve that certain victory have bowed out. We are stuck with old geezers, one of whom is often out of touch with younger and more-liberal Democrats and is a bit dottering. But so is the fool incumbent, so I don't think it matters. Polls still show he's the strongest candidate to run against Trump, and that hasn't changed at all for many months now.

Electing Biden as a placeholder only makes a mockery of the opportunity at hand. I don't see Joe doing much more than pouring oil on troubled waters, and that's the rub. The electorate has been hiring Dems to do clean-up and to smooth ruffled feathers. Once that's done, they hire Republicans to burn the place to the ground. Rinse and repeat.

It's a sad cycle. A big reason why though is that young people and others have not been voting enough in midterm elections. Finally millennial activists like David Hogg at the March for our Lives picked up on that, and so did President Obama, and Tom Steyer's activism made a difference, and midterm voting picked up some in 2018. It will have to pick up more. Since the Reagan era began, we have had two Democratic presidents. They were very effective and skilled candidates and could have gotten some things done, despite their willingness to compromise with the Reaganoids. However, they only had the partial support of the people and their congress for 2 years (in the case of Bill) and 7 months (in the case of Barack). This was fatal in a country where the opposition party is solidly fanatical and extreme and without any scruples or morality. So besides not being progressive enough, they just didn't have the needed backing. So they caved and compromised, or got nothing done, for that reason. And keep in mind that even when for those 2 years Bill Clinton had a majority in congress, Robert Dole was able to block most of his moderately-liberal proposals, and thus keep most of the status quo and ongoing regression going.

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Eric Wrote:It is uncertain whether Biden will win in New Hampshire and Iowa. But if he is close, it looks like he will go on to South Carolina and Nevada and win there, and do well on Super Tuesday. After that it will be tough to stop him. But if Sanders and Warren continue to do well up into the convention, it could be a controversial affair. Warren and Sanders could agree to let one continue with the other's support, and that might outnumber Biden's delegates. Then if will be up to the superdelegates who could decide the nominee on the second ballot, which could further divide the party if Biden gets enough of them to get nominated. A divided party would have less chance to win in what may well be a crap-shoot election, with Trump able to win with 45% of the vote. But even if the superdelegates were to choose Warren, a Democratic loss would be more likely because she is a weak candidate.

I have to agree that there are not a lot of solid options, but going with the most mundane candidate is just a ticket to a bad movie. The Dems need to be the drama queens for once, but they are just too afraid. I know one thing: if they go with a safe pick and lose, the next election cycle will feature no one who's not a firebreather, because, why not?

Welcome to the 2020s. It could start out pretty bad, but it's guaranteed to pick up and get hot.