Election 2020

[Classic-Xer]

(01-06-2020, 06:10 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(01-05-2020, 03:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-04-2020, 09:15 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Real Clear Politics polling average
Biden29.4
Sanders19.4
Warren14.8
Buttigieg7.9
Bloomberg5.8
Yang3.4
Klobuchar3.0
Booker2.3
Gabbard1.9
Steyer1.8
Castro1.1 (dropped out)
Delaney0.8
Williamson0.3
Bennet0.1
Biden +10.0

There's lots and lots of Boomers still in power. Even Silents. Plenty of time for the Crisis which is only half over to get more active and severe. It was always going to unfold this way; I predicted it. The split among Boomers, and Xers too, and white millennials, just indicates the double rhythm; this crisis is primarily domestic like the civil war, which had the same sort of divisions. Our crisis is already called the cold civil war. That may be its lasting title. Things are right on schedule!

I'd say you're a bit ahead ( a decade or so) of the game or schedule as far as where you seem to believe we are at right now. You say/ seem to believe that we are a decade into the 4T right now. Me, I happen to believe that we are nearing the end of the preparation phase and more or less a decade way from the beginning of a rough 4T era for the liberal believers. I don't know whether you'll still be living as the blue system of social and racial preference implodes or you'll be born but you'll be here to directly experience the end one way or another. Yes, we have two different societies with different values (one values this, the other values that instead), two different social structures with two different sets of rules (one earns, the other is granted, two sets of moral guides and principles (one is written stone, the other changes with the seasons and largely driven by emotions), two distinctly different ideologies and two different views of America ( One bad/ one good) and two different understandings of it's government role and it's role in the world. I'd say the Cold Civil sounds about right. I'd also say that goal should be to keep it cold/cool vs heating it up. Honestly, I don't really care if I see a bunch of dumb Democrats dying for doing something really stupid or a bunch of dumb liberal supporters dying or being drug out of office or losing their lively hoods and their homes and their national identities for supporting them.

No, I am with Strauss and Howe and the planetary cycles, and am convinced the year 2008 began the 4T. Also, since our 4T resembles the civil war saeculum, the 2010s resembled the 1950s. Except we are not even at 1860 yet. The sh*t really hits the fan during the climax years between 2025 and 2029. But it won't go on any longer. The timing of the next 2T's beginning in circa 2047 can't be denied, because Uranus and Pluto can't be denied, just as they couldn't be denied in the sixties. So if you want a decent-lasting and more-conservative 1T, you guys had better give up in 2029 and go along. Things may get a bit rougher then for the true liberals like me, but the new consensus will hold like it did in the 1950s.

4Ts have NEVER been conservative. The liberal side always wins. You right-wing believers will see your system and your 40-year retrograde motion end, as we restart progress again in 2022. Your stones will return to dust. Your outdated neo-liberal views will be left behind. The free market will be regulated and taxed appropriately again, the rich who don't earn  and never did will have to learn to pay their share again, and racism, sexism and xenophobia will fade away. Fossil fuel barons and other capitalist lords will have to submit to science and justice and be required to be fair to all people and all living things. "We're in this together" will revive and assume its rightful true-Christian moral place. Guns will be controlled and semi-autos banned. The last major USA war may well be fought, as the peace movement grows again. The religious right will have less power over politics and the supreme court.

I hope you gun-toting right wingers will not have to die and have all your guns taken away in order to wake up, and I hope we can keep the civil war cold.

Democratic Presidential Nomination
Biden29.3
Sanders19.9
Warren14.4
Buttigieg7.7
Bloomberg5.6
Yang3.4
Klobuchar3.0
Booker2.3
Gabbard2.0
Steyer1.9
Castro1.1
Delaney0.9
Williamson0.3
Bennet0.2

Biden +9.4

Moderate candidate Michael Bennet is one of the few candidates remaining in the race with a negative horoscope score. I'd say he should quit now before he falls through the floor and has another stroke or something. He cannot win anyway; he has a Saturn Return due in 2023.

http://philosopherswheel.com/presidentialelections.html

Well, I hope we don't have to use them for that purpose. But if we do, it's good to know that we'll still have them. Here's your big problem, I've never viewed or recognized you as a liberal the entire time we've been posting together. Hint...A liberal is not limited to one or possibly two positions or solutions and is not limited as far as the amount of options either. In my opinion, you are a left wing reactionary/ conservative. I assume that you are just using the term liberal for marketing and fund raising. I mean, if its liberal, associated with liberal then liberals are more likely to financially support or go along because everyone knows or has been taught that liberal is good. Like I've said, you guys got/had a pretty good gig going on. I mean, it pays your bills right. Gee, for only 19$ a month, I can support a poor family of polar bears. I get a picture of them and a monthly progress report too.