Election 2020

[Bob Butler 54]

(08-22-2020, 03:50 PM)CH86 Wrote: Today's DNC is pro-wall street and pro-corporate control, it is also pro-cultural censorship (with the exception of expressions of cultural decadence) and is thus is against the average everyday americans. Current democrat leaders voter profile are those who have cradle to grave pipelines of wealth, Boomers who already got theirs and are so selfish that they want to knock down the later and hollowed out underclass districts who are dependent on the former when it was the first two groups who are responsible for breaking down classes in the first place, thus creating the dependency cycle in the first place; due to outsourcing and the boomers participation in the drug trade which flooded city neighborhoods and hollowed them out orginially back when the boomers were in their own young adult years.

The Democrats at least gives lip service to the workers and minorities. We will have to see if they give more than lip service, that their picking up of the radical wing’s values and agenda is more than an empty promise At least they are giving a campaign promise level commitment.

The Republicans have a traditional problem with elites and racism. Trump has added self profit, narcissism and greed. That last has come to the fore and gives the Democrats a chance to live up to their radical wing (Warren and Sanders) values.

I will admit that in the middle of the unraveling the Democrats lost their way badly. During that time campaign finance (bribes) was more important than serving their voters. Jobs went overseas. Benefits were cut and unions weakened. Supposedly they have seen the light. Me, I won’t be content until they prove it by pushing things through congress. Until then, I’ll just note the campaign promises and do what I can to hold them to it.

Cultural decadence? This means it is OK to eat spaghetti, or drink green beer on St Paddy’s day? It is not OK to like Mexican or Asian cuisine? Some conservatives show their prejudice by trying to dictate which immigrant traditional cultural elements they accept. Yours is one of the more blatant examples.

I agree that too many politicians of both parties serve too well the cradle to grave rich. Neither have focused enough on serving the working man or minorities. As I said, the Republicans with their links to elites and racists have the larger problem. The period from FDR to LBJ was the last time when a dominant party focused on first workers (the New Deal) then the minorities (The Civil Rights movement). Unfortunately, this resulted in the Republicans picking up the racist vote. There were more racists than minorities, and the result was to make America not great anymore. The Republican schtick during the unraveling is that it was best not to support the working man if it hurt minorities the most.

But the key is that character, compassion, decency, science and democracy stay the dominant center of the ballot. Once we get a return to those, we can see about the influence of the elites on the government, allowing all minority culture, law and order, and the rest. The Republicans will have to rebuild their party, with the elites, the racists and the true conservatives fighting it out. The Democrats have to give more than lip service to what they promised at their convention. If either succeed we’ll be OK. If both succeed, we can have some interesting debates. Once the next unraveling comes, you can even have your greedy self centered culture back for a time.

But overall your analysis is all over the place. You are far more concerned with keeping your ideology than paying attention to reality.