Election 2020

[Bob Butler 54]

(08-23-2020, 07:24 AM)Isoko Wrote:

(08-23-2020, 04:14 AM)CH86 Wrote: Good god, talking to Boomers (especially boomer liberals) is like talking to a brick wall. You enjoy your globalist degenerate overlords, the rest of us will eventually rebel against such tyranny. Americans HATE GLOBALIST/UN TYRANNY.

It is because they are old men. Before them the elderly in the West clung to the days of the might of the British Empire and what have you, constantly defending such a position and how great it was when such countries had colonial empires. 

It's the same with today's baby boomers. They are old and just cannot move on from the past, not realising that today is a very different world from the 60s and 70s. 

Like the old saying goes, "you cannot teach an old dog new tricks."

I’ve been doing a little thinking on why various generations are locked into perceptions.  In their youth, people tend to find a world view and values, and carry it around with them for the rest of their lives assuming the lack or a traumatic failure or a 4T.  Same thing, really.  For people like Eric and myself, this meant living through the time before the southern strategy, when the Democrats were dominant and favored policies that favored the working man.  People got worked up about racism and pushed for the worst of it to change.

It is not too surprising that we want a return to the time when America was great.  Even a Republican can feel that urge.

The younger folk grew up in a time dominated by elitist and racist thought.  During much of that time the Democrats fell into the elitist trap.  Benefits and unions were weakened.  Jobs went overseas.  Campaign donations from the elites became more important than serving the people.  This was worse for the Republicans but the Democrats were not far behind.  I will say bad things about many establishment Democrats at the time as long as you say it in spades of the Republicans.

The trouble is that favoring racists and elites over the working man and minorities is still the Republican policy and the Trump policy, yet that policy is their grounds for going after Democrats.

And people formed their world view and values at that time.  They saw Democrats not at their best and locked into it.  They formed a negative opinion of them, and I don’t blame them.  But still, the idea of hurting the working man, benefiting the elites, hurting minorities, that was the Republicans.  That was the southern strategy.

The Democrats have embraced Warren and Sanders more aggressive approach.  In many ways it is a return to the old days Eric and I remember.  The Democrats favored the working man, and the Republicans supported the elites and corporations.  The Republicans claimed that what was best for General Motors was best for America, at least until General Motors needed them.  But I have several of the conservatives not seeing it.  They are obsessed with violence without checking the spirals of violence and rhetoric.  They are saying what Democrats were like without listening to what the Democrats are saying today.  They would rather go with their decades old stereotypes.  They are dealing with the unravelling southern strategy mindset without looking at the Republican loyalty to that mindset.

And you just can’t teach people who have grown out of the worldview and values formation time new tricks.  Well, short of a catastrophic failure of their values.  Or a 4T.  Same thing, really.