Election 2020

[Classic-Xer]

(11-12-2020, 12:56 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(11-11-2020, 10:27 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(11-10-2020, 10:54 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Despair is a losing proposition. Trump has taken America into a moral cesspool, and getting us out of it won't be easy. It is wisest to look for the best in human nature and foster it. It won't be easy, as Donald Trump has poisoned much of what passes for thought in many of us. Maybe we will be fortunate and, free of seeing his moronic tweets, we won't keep looking at sewage. Looking at a scrap-heap is depressing, but at least that is one way to get the metal in decrepit machines and vehicles back into commercial activity and utility. Trump's invective offers us no possible benefit.

I expect Joe Biden, now arguably the last connection that we have to a time of GI politics, to recall what was right about the GI world, one that fostered inclusion even without such as an objective, one that promoted rationality, one that saw service as an objective instead of something to evade, fairness as a test for judgment, and convention as the fallback. Note well that much that is GI-like in the Millennial generation will be welcome now; Trump is about as uncharacteristic of a Civic/Hero generation as he can be. Joe Biden may be nothing new, but 'nothing new' is far superior to novel perversion. 

Donald Trump is the antithesis of a Civic/Hero world. I look at the scientist and see a process that depends upon truth disembodied from a personality. Someone like Einstein could say that e=mc^2 all that he wanted, but he found mathematical proof behind it and others found experimental backing beneath it. A sound economy works for people other than the economic elites. Capitalism is here to stay, but the rationale of capitalism is that people other than capitalists can fare well. Maybe we need some economic reforms such as changes in the tax laws that give a break to small business as opposed to bureaucratized behemoths that themselves are doomed to their internal rot and lack of innovation. 

Trump will be gone from the scene, and such nefarious influence as he has on American life will also vanish. We will probably have a safe and effective vaccine for COVID-19 fairly soon -- but not soon enough that people who do reckless things contract it and die. We are already past 240,000 deaths in America from COVID-19; it could have been far less had the President followed the lead of political leaders of both Parties, local officials, medical science, and even Big Business. Trump has damned us into another, more complete lockdown in time for the Super Bowl.  What Trump did wrong, Biden will do right... and we will be wearing masks. 

I'll take wishful and hopeful rhetoric over despair. Pessimists all too often get what they expect and never like it.

Dude, the people on your side who were rioting and looting and destroying peoples property are the antithesis of the Civic/Hero world. If you're going to keep posting partisan bullshit without thinking, I'm here to teach you and show you and everyone else how stupid and how pathetic and deplorable people like you, people like those above you and the people above them really are these days. WE HAVE FOUR YEARS TO USE YOU AS EXAMPLES TO TEACH OTHER PEOPLE WHO TO STAY AWAY FROM FOR THEIR OWN GOOD BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ALL THOSE ABOVE YOU ARE GOING TO END UP BEING POLITICALLY/FINANCIALLY DECIMATED. You don't have a pot to piss in which means you get to live out the last years of your life living like a stray dog or being rounded up executed by some Blue Fascists that you thought were just garden variety socialists. You are now in the position that I've been telling you that you would be in when the time comes.

How do you know that the people 'rioting and looting' are on my side? I would betray such people to law enforcement and prosecution because security of person and property from overt crime is necessary for freedom and prosperity. I reported a drunk driver to local law enforcement in full awareness of what would happen to him were he arrested in the condition in which he was. I have suggested that people use their cameras, still or moving, to document riots that exploit lawful protests. 

I know enough to avoid people with hammer-and-sickle devices just as I know enough to avoid people who have swastikas or KKK emblems. I don't trust Antifa... and certainly not the Boogaloo Bois. 

We need to humanize capitalism so that we can avoid a proletarian revolution... you know, the sort that uses hammer-and-sickle devices.

It's pretty obvious that the Left was supporting them. I assume that you weren't paying attention to them as usual. Biden's replacement set up a fund to bailout the rioters. You should pay attention to them because they're going to be the cause of your demise. We're not going to start a war with them. We're going to let them start one with us which will justify our response. You are going to be amazed at how far we are going let them go before we start waging war and begin turning their worlds upside down. You see, the people on the American right have scruples and a clear understanding of right and wrong. History is going to repeat ( it's in the stars) and you and every other fool who voted for Biden are going to find themselves on the wrong side when the Democratic war with America starts.