The "Bad Apples" of each generation
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The "Bad Apples" of each generation
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11-23-2018, 12:29 AM
(11-22-2018, 09:08 PM)gabrielle Wrote:Fine; I'll get rid of her from the list.(11-21-2018, 01:50 PM)Ghost Wrote: Lindsey Smith (age unknown, but she is probably a Millennial): Notorious #Resister and both an anti-white and anti-male bigot
12-14-2018, 10:18 PM
Another bad apple has fallen from the tree:
Chérif Chekatt (b. 1989) - the perpetrator of the recent mass shooting in Strasbourg
We have another fellow, age 49, implicated in a wide-ranging terrorist plot.
Editor's note: This story contains language that may be offensive to some readers. Updated at 6:30 a.m. ET A 49-year-old Coast Guard lieutenant charged with stockpiling weapons and drugs is being described as a "domestic terrorist" who was planning "to murder innocent civilians on a scale rarely seen in this country," according to court documents filed in U.S. District Court in Maryland on Tuesday. Federal prosecutors say Christopher Paul Hasson, a self-described white nationalist living in Silver Spring, Md., was amassing firearms since at least 2017, while cultivating plans to launch a widespread attack on prominent Democratic lawmakers, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and several high-profile television anchors from MSNBC and CNN. More from NPR. Targeted: According to court documents, he had a spreadsheet for targets. These were (all [sic]): -"JOEY" (Presumably Joe Scarborough) -"Chris hayes" -"Sen blumen jew" (Richard Blumenthal) -"pelosi" -"sen kaine" -"ari melber" -"shumer" (Chuck Schumer) -"don lemon" -"gillibran" -"poca warren" -"cortez" -"booker" -"harris" -"beto orourke" -"maxine waters" -"sheila jackson" -"ilhan omar" -"chris cuomo" -"DSA" -"van jones" -"podesta" [url=https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696470366/arrested-coast-guard-officer-planned-mass-terrorist-attack-on-a-scale-rarely-see][/url]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
03-28-2019, 09:19 PM
For bad guys, most of the school shooters seem to be Millennials. The angriest of Millennials make the cynicism of Gen X look idealistic. Does anyone speculate why this is? For Millennials the killers are the outcast loners whereas with Boomers the bad guys are the charismatic people that everyone thinks is a good person. Why the difference?
03-29-2019, 12:53 AM
There have been some very bad GI's -- John Dillinger, Howard Unruh, Ed Gein, Clyde Barrow, Bonnie Parker... and most seem to be loners in a generation that saw them as outliers. Outside the United States are such contemporaries as...OK, I need not list a bunch of Nazis and Stalinists.
Maybe you forget the worst of all mass killers, Timothy McVeigh, who was X. I remember seeing an interview of him in which he responded to the reality that small innocent children had died when he blew up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. He called such death "collateral damage"! McVeigh had pent-up anger, and he was even arrested wearing a shirt that had an image of Abraham Lincoln, a gun pointed at him, and the words "Sic semper tyrannis". The allusion was to the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. It is hard to figure out the murky mind of someone so horrible as McVeigh for what he did.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
07-23-2019, 11:44 AM
Not that it excuses Cesar Sayoc...
[/url] Quote:[url=https://www.huffpost.com/topic/cesar-sayoc]Cesar Sayoc, the fanatical Donald Trump fan who mailed package bombs to the president’s political opponents, is a cognitively limited sexual abuse survivor who thought of the now-president as a “surrogate father” and came to believe in an “alternative reality” fueled in part by Trump’s attacks on his political opponents, his attorneys told a federal court on Monday. Sayoc has admitted to mailing pipe bombs to Democratic politicians, media figures and celebrities he perceived as Trump’s enemies last fall, and pleaded guilty to several federal crimes in March. He could face life in prison when he’s sentenced on August 5, but his federal public defenders said Monday he should serve 10 years in prison followed by community supervision (as well as mental health counseling and drug treatment). Sayoc, his attorneys wrote in a sentencing memo filed in federal court in New York on Monday, was a Trump “super fan” and “began to consider Democrats as not just dangerous in theory, but imminently and seriously dangerous to his personal safety.” “President Trump did nothing to dissuade this message,” they write. Their filing cites Trump’s Twitter attacks on the figures Sayoc targeted. Sayoc was a Trump fan before the reality television host ran for president, and viewed him as “everything he wanted to be: self-made, successful, and a ‘playboy,’” his attorneys wrote. But Sayoc “began watching Fox News religiously,” started following political news on Facebook and and “threw himself into” Trump’s campaign once he announced his candidacy because he “came to view Trump as a personal champion—someone who had helped him through the most difficult periods of his life and who could do the same for other people across the country.” Sayoc, his lawyers wrote, “began watching Fox News religiously at the gym, planning his morning workout to coincide with Fox and Friends and his evenings to dovetail with Hannity.” With his use of steroids, they said, he became paranoid and delusional about the false news stories that clogged his social media feeds. “Because of his cognitive limitations and mental illness, he believed outlandish reports in the news and on social media, which increasingly made him unhinged. He became obsessed with ‘attacks’ from those he perceived as Trump’s enemies. He believed stories shared on Facebook that Trump supporters were being beaten in the streets. He came to believe that he was being personally targeted for supporting Trump: Mr. Sayoc thought that anti-Trump forces were trying to hurt him and they were to blame when his van was vandalized,” they wrote. “A rational observer may have brushed off Trump’s tweets as hyperbole, but Mr. Sayoc took them to heart,” according to Sayoc’s attorneys. Federal prosecutors, in their own sentencing memo, said Sayoc should spend the rest of his life behind bars. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cesar-say...b6adb48758 Maybe I can understand him a little more, but I cannot excuse or trivialize what he did. Millions watch FoX News without getting so angry that they do violence. From his defense statement, his father practically abandoned him. He got messed up on steroids and got into the strip-club business to the consternation of his last reliable relatives, his grandparents. When busted he was working in a strip club and he was heavily into steroids. ....He is guilty of plotting major crimes. He could have done great damage to our political process.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
07-23-2019, 12:20 PM
More bad apples:
Silent Generation: Charles Whitman (1941-1966) - Texas Tower shooter Baby Boomers: Jeffrey Epstein (born 1953) - rapist, sex trafficker Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman (born 1957) - notorious drug trafficker Gen X: Clarisa Figueroa (born c. 1973) - One of the three people involved in the "womb raiding" killing of Marlen Ochoa-Lopez Piotr Bobak (born c. 1979) - One of the three people involved in the "womb raiding" killing of Marlen Ochoa-Lopez Millennials: Cheyanne Jessie (born 1989) - Woman who murdered her father and daughter in July 2015 and is now facing the death penalty Brenton Tarrant (born c. 1991) - Christchurch shooter Desiree Figueroa (born c. 1995) - One of the three people involved in the "womb raiding" killing of Marlen Ochoa-Lopez YNW Melly (born 1999) - Cop killer John Timothy Earnest (born 1999) - Poway shooter Homelanders: Tay-K (born 2000) - Murderer Sol Pais (2001-2019) - Columbine-obsessed teen who sent threats to many Colorado schools (including Columbine High School) 
07-24-2019, 12:06 PM
There are other cases of fetal abduction and murder too. Horrible.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...-plot.html
07-24-2019, 02:04 PM
Is "cognitively-limited" a euphemism for "stupid"?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
08-09-2019, 08:09 PM
Some more:
Silent Generation: Larry Troutman (1944-1999) - Murdered his brother, Roger Troutman, and then killed himself Joseph DeAngelo (born 1945) - Golden State killer Baby Boomer: Terry Nichols (born 1955) - Man who helped Timothy McVeigh orchestrate the Oklahoma City Bombing George Hennard (1956-1991) - The Luby's shooter Ramon Salcido (born 1961) - Mass murderer Armin Meiwes (born 1961) - German cannibal Gen X: Yevhen Hapon (born 1974) - Controversial black metal vocalist/musician Jeffrey Atkins (born 1976) - One of the two Fyre Festival fraudsters Michael Peinovich Jr. (born 1977) - Charlottesville speaker and attendee Kenneth Petty (born 1978) - Nicki Minaj's boyfriend that is both a sex offender and a murderer James Rouse (born 1978) - Richland School shooter Barry Loukaitis (born 1981) - Frontier Middle School shooter Millennials: Kipland Kinkel (born 1982) - Thurston High School shooter, committed familicide before school shooting Luka Magnotta (born 1982) - Serial cat killer and murderer of Lin Jun Michael Martin (born 1982) - One of the two people involved in the notorious "FamilyOFive" persona on YouTube Heather Martin (born 1983) - One of the two people involved in the notorious "FamilyOFive" persona on YouTube Austin Gillespie (born 1983) - Probably an irrelevant figure now, but like Peinovich, he was a Charlottesville speaker and attendee "Lynn Ann" (born 1984) - Woman notoriously obsessed with Eric Harris, one of the Columbine shooters Alvaro Castillo (born 1987) - Columbine-obsessed man who killed his father Billy McFarland (born 1991) - One of the two Fyre Festival fraudsters Austin Jones (born 1992) - YouTuber involved in child pornography Connor Betts (born c. 1995) - Dayton shooter Brandon Theesfeld (born 1997) - Man who murdered his 21-year-old classmate, Alexandria Kostial Alexander Whipple (born 1997) - Man who raped and murdered his five-year-old niece Patrick Crusius (born 1998) - El Paso Walmart shooter Brook Higgins (born 1999) - One of the two girls who plotted to shoot up Mountain Vista High School "Dan from Long Island" (born 1999) - Unite the Right 2 attendee Sienna Johnson (born 1999) - One of the two girls who plotted to shoot up Mountain Vista High School Gen Z: Kam McLeod (c. 2000-2019) - One of the two murderers of Lucas Fowler and Chynna Deese Lee Elder Finnegan (born 2000) - One of two murderers of an Italian paramilitary police officer. Gabriel Christian Natale Hjorth (born 2000) - One of the two murderers of an Italian paramilitary police officer. Bryer Schmegelsky (c. 2001-2019) - One of the two murderers of Lucas Fowler and Chynna Deese. Matias Oyarzo Vera (born 2003) - Known as "Peluchin Entertainment" on YouTube. He killed and abused his cat Jason, abused other cats, cyberbullied an autistic man, abused his younger stepbrother, and sexually harassed girls. He is easily the Homeland Generation's Luka Magnotta. Preston McDuffie (born 2005) - Cat abuser
08-10-2019, 05:20 AM
(03-29-2019, 12:53 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: There have been some very bad GI's -- John Dillinger, Howard Unruh, Ed Gein, Clyde Barrow, Bonnie Parker... and most seem to be loners in a generation that saw them as outliers. Outside the United States are such contemporaries as...OK, I need not list a bunch of Nazis and Stalinists. I'm pretty sure that Timothy McVeigh is on the list.
09-01-2019, 10:27 PM
(08-09-2019, 08:09 PM)Ghost Wrote: Some more: Correction: Connor Betts was born in 1994.
09-19-2019, 05:54 PM
(03-28-2019, 09:19 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: For bad guys, most of the school shooters seem to be Millennials. The angriest of Millennials make the cynicism of Gen X look idealistic. Does anyone speculate why this is? For Millennials the killers are the outcast loners whereas with Boomers the bad guys are the charismatic people that everyone thinks is a good person. Why the difference? Gen Z does a lot of it, too. Just today, a 17-year old kid had his plan of attacking his school on the 21st anniversary of the Columbine shooting foiled.
02-07-2020, 10:35 AM
Update on Austin Gillespie: He is apparently also a kidnapper now
Another bad Gen Z apple - Dayton Kingery (born 1998): He was the person infamous for going on a racist and homophobic drunk rampage at Chapman University.
02-07-2020, 12:30 PM
Here's a truly horrible beast.
Jhon Jairo Velásquez Vásquez (April 15, 1962 – February 6, 2020) also known by the alias "Popeye", was a hitman[1] who was part of the criminal structure of the Medellín Cartel until his surrender to the Colombian justice system in 1992. Within this structure he claimed to be a lieutenant commanding half of the sicarios.[2] Jhon Jairo Velásquez Vásquez was born in the municipality of Yarumal, Antioquia, Colombia. He was admitted to the Colombian National Army; later he joined the cadet school of the national police, only to leave days later, having not found any satisfaction in his profession. Later, he entered the school of apprentices of the Colombian Navy where he earned his distinctive nickname 'Popeye' because of his physical resemblance to the character, which would later be removed by plastic surgery. Velásquez escaped from prison once and was later caught and served the time. Velásquez was identified as one of the most important hitmen of the Medellín cartel. He confessed to 257 personal killings, the kidnapping of then candidate for mayor of Bogotá, Andrés Pastrana Arango (who would later become President of the republic), the kidnapping of Francisco Santos (who would later become vice president), kidnapping and murder of Colombian politician Carlos Mauro Hoyos, complicity in the murder of the governor of Antioquia, Antonio Roldán Betancur, in a failed mission entrusted to Popeye and John Jairo Arias Tascón, alias "Pinina" to kill a police colonel, and the killing of politician and Presidential candidate Luis Carlos Galán Sarmiento.[3] He also admitted to arranging over 3000 killings.[4] He helped plan the plane bombing that killed 110 people. In May 2018 Velásquez was arrested on charges of extortion and criminal conspiracy. It is claimed he was blackmailing former associates of Pablo Escobar pantera who still control some of his assets.[5] Since 1992, Velásquez served a prison sentence on charges of terrorism, drug trafficking, extortion, conspiracy for terrorist purposes and murder.[6] However, despite the severity of his crimes, Colombia does not have capital punishment and the maximum sentence at the time of his conviction was thirty years. During 2000 and 2001, Popeye was involved in armed clashes in La Modelo prison. In 2008, he was sentenced to twelve years for other judicial proceedings against him. On August 22, 2014 he received probation for having served three-fifths of his sentence. At age of 52, he was released on 26 August 2014 after 23 years and 3 months in prison.[7} Velásquez was once in a relationship with Wendy Chavarriaga Gil, a former lover of his boss Pablo Escobar. They were lying in bed one day when the phone rang; on the other end was a recording of Wendy speaking with DEA agents. 'Popeye' was then given a choice: "love or death, money or lead (plata o plomo)". Velásquez hung up the phone and shot Wendy fatally twice in the forehead, in a fit of rage. [8] In an interview, according to Popeye, Escobar was clear in his instructions, "you or her, do not hesitate a single second ... plata o plomo, amor o muerte. I’m waiting"[9] As his main sicario (hitman) and Escobar's right hand man, "Popeye" performed the murder himself even though she was the woman he loved. Velásquez was loyal to Escobar until the King of Cocaine released him of his duties while on the run. Controversy continued to follow Popeye since his release from prison. On December 12, 2016, a video appeared in which Velásquez brandishes and fires a handgun in the streets of Medellín.[10] In the video, Velásquez proudly states, "Hello warriors, I'm here in the streets of my beloved Medellín, testing out my beautiful 9mm Pietro Beretta. We're firing it, it's a doll, a beauty!"[11]
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
02-07-2020, 09:09 PM
(02-07-2020, 12:30 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Here's a truly horrible beast. Good point.
So to sum it up; (I’ve added some more Bad Apples in, some obvious ones you all have forgot, and I have also gone as far back as the Missionary Gen)
Missionary Generation (and foreign peers) Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924) Albert Fish (1870-1936) Augusta Gein (1878-1945) Arnold Leese (1878-1956) Joseph Stalin (1878-1953) Leon Trotsky (1879-1940) Lost Generation (and foreign peers) Benito Mussolini (1883-1945) Ernst Röhm (1887-1934) Adolf Hitler (1889-1945) Eoin O’Duffy (1890-1944) Fritz Todt (1891-1942) Karl Dönitz (1891-1980) Francisco Franco (1892-1975) Hermann Göring (1893-1946) Séan Russell (1893-1940) Mao Zedong (1893-1976) Rudolf Hess (1894-1987) Oswald Mosley (1896-1980) Hans Baur (1897-1993) Joseph Goebbels (1897-1945) Lavernty Beria (1899-1953) Heinrich Müller (1900-1945) Martin Bormann (1900-1945) Heinrich Himmler (1900-1945) Rudolf Diels (1900-1957) G.I./Greatest Generation (and foreign peers) Hirohito (1901-1989) Hendrik Verwoerd (1901-1966) Trude Mohr (1902-1989) Albert Bormann (1902-1989) Georg Betz (1903-1945) Werner Best (1903-1989) Alwin-Broder Albrecht (1903-1945) Ernst Kaltenbrunner (1903-1946) Reinhard Heydrich (1904-1942) Albert Speer (1905-1981) Adolf Eichmann (1906-1962) Gerhard Engel (1906-1976) Ed Gein (1906-1984) Baldur von Schirach (1907-1974) Christa Schroeder (1908-1984) Jutta Rüdiger (1910-2001) Eva Braun (1912-1945) Harry Hay (1912-2002) Kim Il-Sung (1912-1994) Heinz Linge (1913-1980) Klaus Barbie (1913-1991) Hans Hermann Junge (1914-1944) Peter Hayman (1914-1992) Nicholae Ceausescu (1918-1989) George Lincoln Rockwell (1918-1967) David Berg (1919-1994) George Wallace (1919-1998) Howard Unruh (1921-2009) Lee Kwan Yew (1923-2015) Silent Generation (and foreign peers) Idi Amin Dada (1925-2003) Ervil LeBaron (1925-1981) Pol Pot (1925-1998) Margaret Thatcher (1925-2013) Ian Paisley (1926-2014) Allen Ginsberg (1926-1997) Efrain Rios-Montt (1926-2018) Fidel Castro (1926-2016) Jimmy Savile (1926-2011) Brendan Smyth (1927-1997) James Earl Ray (1928-1998) Che Guevara (1928-1967) Gertrude Baniszewski (1928-1990) Imelda Marcos (b 1929) James “Whitey” Bulger (1929-2018) Rolf Harris (b 1930) Jim Jones (1931-1978) Marshall Applewhite (1931-1997) Félicien Kabuga (b 1933) Louis Farrakhan (b 1933) William Luther Pierce (1933-2002) John Tyndall (1934-2005) Charles Manson (1934-2017) John Geoghan (1935-2003) Andrei Chikatilo (1936-1994) Saddam Hussein (1937-2006) Haile Mengistu (b 1937) Tom Metzger (1938-2020) Cecil Price (1938-2001) Bernard Madoff (1938-2021) Maxine Waters (b 1938) David Lane (1938-2007) Tom Reeves (1939-2012) Lee Harvey Oswald (1939-1963) John Gotti (1940-2002) Kim Jong-Il (1941-2011) David Thorstad (1941-2021) Charles Whitman (1941-1966) Théoneste Bagosora (1941-2021) Ali Hassan “Chemical Ali” al-Majid (1941-2010) John Wayne Gacy (1942-1994) Ted Kaczynski (b 1942) Muammar Gaddafi (1942-2011) James Huberty (1942-1984) Kang Kek Iew (1942-2020) Baby Boomers (and foreign peers) Bobby Fischer (1943-2008) Ian Dunn (1943-1998) Henry Hill (1943-2002) Gary Glitter (b 1944) Larry Troutman (1944-1999) Dennis “BTK” Raider (b 1945) Rodrigo Roa Duterte (b 1945) Tom O’Carroll (b 1945) Joseph DeAngelo (b 1945) Charles “Tex” Watson (b 1945) Joseph Ricci (1946-2001) Peter “The Yorkshire Ripper” Sutcliffe (1946-2020) George W. Bush (b 1946) Bill Clinton (b 1946) Ted Bundy (1946-1989) Graham Young (1947-1990) Charles Albee (b 1947) Hilary Clinton (b 1947) Patricia Krenwinkel (b 1947) Gerry Adams (b 1948) Edmund Kemper (b 1948) Wesley Demarest (b 1949) Gary “Green River Killer” Ridgeway (b 1949) Leslie Van Houten (b 1949) Pablo Escobar (1949-1993) Martin McGuinness (1950-2017) David Duke (b 1950) David Myatt (b 1950) Jean-Bosco Barayagwiza (1950-2010) James Hodgkinson (b 1950) Eric Franklin Rosser (b 1952) Lenny Murphy (1952-1982) Harvey Weinstein (b 1952) Vladimir Putin (b 1952) Charles Bronson (b 1952) Jeffery Epstein (1953-2019) Stephen Paddock (1953-2017) Tony Blair (b 1953) Harold Covington (1953-2018) Charles Marvin Parker (1954-2013) Bobby Sands (1954-1981) Mumia Abu Jamal (b 1954) Shoko Asahara (1955-2018) Terry Nichols (b 1955) Mark David Chapman (b 1955) John Hinckley Jr. (b 1955) Alton Coleman (1955-2002) Aileen Wuornos (1956-2002) John Bachtell (b 1956) George Hennard (1956-1991) Osama Bin Laden (1957-2011) Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzman (b 1957) Jesse Anderson (1957-1994) Ian Stuart Donaldson (1957-1993) Hassan Ngese (b 1957) Jack Abramoff (b 1958) Jim “Doris Day” Gray (1958-2005) David Koresh (1959-1993) Richard Ramirez (1960-2013) Jeffrey Dahmer (1960-1994) Robert Kajuga (1960-2007) Yolanda Saldivar (b 1960) John Allen “D.C. Sniper” Mohammed (1960-2009) Generation X (and foreign peers) Ramon Salcid (b 1961) “Vissarion” (b 1961) Armin Meywes (b 1961) Mary Kay Letourneau (1962-2020) Cesar Sayoc (b 1962) Brenda Spencer (b 1962) Jhon Jario Velásquez Vásquez (1962-2020) Peter Scully (b 1963) Johnny Adair (b 1963) “Fat” Jackie Thompson (b 1963) Marc Lepine (1964-1989) Bill Andriette (b 1965) William Fleming (1965-1984) Bashar Hafez al-Assad (b 1965) Malik Zulu Shabbaz (b 1966) R. Kelly (b 1967) Ricky Kasso (1967-1984) Martin Bryant (b 1967) Klas Lund (b 1968) Timothy McVeigh (1968-2001) Mohammed Atta (1968-2001) Oystein “Euronymous” Aarseth (b 1968) Adam Walker (b 1969) Cory Booker (b 1969) Paul Nehlen (b 1969) Christopher Scarver (b 1969) Andrew Cunanan (1969-1997) Robert “Darken” Fudali (b 1969) Yvonne Felarca (b 1969 or 1970) Karla Homolka (b 1970) Tonya Harding (b 1970) Quannel X (b 1970) Matthew Hale (b 1971) Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi (1971-2019) Wade Michael Page (1971-2012) Marthijin Uittenbogaard (b 1972) Hani Hanjour (1972-2001) Clarisa Figueroa (b 1972 or 1973) Kristian "Varg" Vikernes (b 1973) Wail al-Shehri (1973-2001) Yevhen Hapon (b 1974) Orlando Anderson (1974-1998) Ricardo Lopez (1975-1996) Ziad Jarrah (1975-2001) Khalid al-Mihdhar (1975-2001) Jason Vukovich (b 1975) Hendrik Mobus (b 1976) Jeffery “Ja Rule” Atkins (b 1976) Satam al-Suqami (1976-2001) Nawaf al-Hazmi (1976-2001) Christine Moody (b 1976 or 1977) Fayez Banihammad (1977-2001) Michael “Mike Echols” Peinovich Jr. (b 1977) Majed Moqed (1977-2001) Pamela Rogers Turner (b 1977) Ian Watkins (b 1977) Ahmed al-Nami (1977-2001) Jared Fogle (b 1977) Rachel Dolezal (b 1977) Georgios Germenis (b 1977) Kenneth Petty (b 1978) Marwan al-Shehhi (1978-2001) Richard Spencer (b 1978) Norbert DeGorge (b 1978) Haakon Forwald (b 1978) Lacy MacAuley (b 1978) Eivind Berge (b 1978) Scott Paul Beierle (1978-2018) Waleed al-Shehri (1978-2001) Piotr Bobak (b 1978 or 1979) Anders Breivik (b 1979) Lana Lokteff (b 1979) Mohand al-Shehri (1979-2001) Abdulaziz al-Omari (1979-2001) Ahmed al-Ghamdi (1979-2001) Saeed al-Ghamdi (1979-2001) Linda Sarsour (b 1980) José “El Chino Ántrax” Gamboa (1980-2020) Lindsey Shookus (b 1980) Steven Kazmierczak (1980-2008) Debra Lafave (b 1980) Nathan Larson (b 1980) Mark Collett (b 1980) Ahmed al-Haznawi (1980-2001) Hazma al-Ghamdi (1980-2001) Carl Herold (1980-2014 or 1981-2014) Salem al-Hazmi (1981-2001) Barry Loukaitis (b 1981) Eric Harris (1981-1999) Dylan Klebold (1981-1999) “Notbrainwashed” “LandOfTheUnfree” (From Freespeechtube) (b 1981) Millennials (and foreign peers) Paul Goulding (b 1982) Ludovic “Famine” Van Alst (b 1982) Luka Magnotta (b 1982) Jon Venables (b 1982) Robert Thompson (b 1982) Kip Kinkel (b 1982) Tommy Robinson (b 1982) Michael “DaddyOFive” Martin (b 1982) Kim Jong-Un (b 1982, 1983 or 1984) Jeremy Moody (b 1982 or 1983) Jeremy Steinke (b 1983) Anita Sarkeesian (b 1983) Austin Gillespie (b 1983) Heather “MommyOFive” Martin (b 1983) Jason Kessler (b 1983) Seung Hui-Cho (1984-2007) Patrick Little (b 1984) Ross Ulbricbht (b 1984) Alexei Levkin (b 1984) “Lynn Ann” (b 1984) Marcello “Psyclon” Mello (b 1985) “Weev” (b 1985) “Onision” (b 1985) Richard Huckle (1986-2019) Nathan Damigo (b 1986) Jayda Fransen (b 1986) Nikko Jenkins (b 1986) Tamerlan Tsarnaev (1986-2013) Omar Mateen (1986-2016) Abdelhamid Abaaoud (1987-2015) Alvaro Castillo (b 1987) Colin Kaepernick (b 1987) Jared Lee Loughner (b 1988) Patrick Casey (b 1988 or 1989) Martin Sellner (b 1989) Chérif Chekatt (1989-2018) Travis Reinking (b 1989) Faith Goldy (b 1989) Cheyanne Jessie (b 1989) Christopher Harper Mercer (1989-2015) Aaron Hernandez (1989-2017) Blair Cottrell (b 1989) Ian David Long (1990-2018) Inna Shevchenko (b 1990) Andres Barbosa (b 1990) Brenton Tarrant (b 1990) Seandell Jackson (b 1990 or 1991) Brittany Zamora (b 1991) Devin Patrick Kelly (1991-2017) Elliot Rodger (1991-2014) Matthew Heimbach (b 1991) Elliot “Eli Mosley” Kline (b 1991) Billy McFarland (b 1991) Adam Lanza (1992-2012) Austin Jones (b 1992) Josh Mascharka (b 1993) Asa H Coon (1993-2007) Jasmine Richardson (b 1993) Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (b 1993) Savannah Brockhill (b 1993) “MAPCrusader” “Indian Boy Lover” “AyaanZ” (On Freespeechtube and his blog) (b 1993 or 1994) Dylann Roof (b 1994) TJ Lane (b 1994) Connor Betts (1994-2019) Salman Abedi (1994-2017) Thomas Durpe (b 1994 or 1995) Desiree Figueroa (b 1994 or 1995) Zak “pablosunny” Haddad (b 1995) Joshua Ryne Goldberg (b 1995) Nelson Maatman (b 1995 or 1996) Louise Porton (b 1995 or 1996) Daniel “6ix9ine” Hernandez Michael Steven Stanford (b 1996) Peter Cvjetanovic (b 1996) James Alex Fields (b 1997) Veronica “Evalion” Bouchard (b 1997) Brandon Theesfeld (b 1997) Alexander Whipple (b 1997) Thomas Rousseau (b 1998) Patrick Crusius (b 1998) Dayton Kingery (b 1998) Nick Fuentes (b 1998) Nikolas Cruz (b 1998) Amos Yee (b 1998) Shelby Shoup (b 1998) Jaylen Fryberg (b 1999) YNW Melly (b 1999) John Timothy Earnest (b 1999) Trippie Redd (b 1999) Kyle Anger (b 1999) Brook Higgins (b 1999) “Dan from Long Island” (b 1999) Sienna Johnson (b 1999) Vladislav Roslyakov (1999-2018 or 2000-2018) Kam McLed (2000-2019) Tay K (b 2000) Lee Elder Finnegan (b 2000) Gabriel Christian Natale Hjorth (b 2000) Bryer Schmegelsky (2000-2019) Dimitrios Pagourtzis (b 2000) Sol Pais (2001-2019) Jo Ann Butler (b 2001) Frankie Smith (b 2001) Anissa Weier (b 2001) “Freetheteens69” “Holocaust22” (On Freespeechtube) (b 2001 or 2002) Morgan Geyser (b 2002) Jesse Osbourne (b 2002) Homelanders (and foreign peers) Kyle Rittenhouse (b 2003) “PedophobeHater” “Holocaust060303” (On Freespeechtube) (b 2003) Alec McKinney (b 2003) Matias “Peluchin Entertainment” Oyazro (b 2003) “Cranium 99” (On YouTube) “Shotacon745” (On Freespeechtube) (b 2003) “Brazilian Spider-Man” (b 2003 or 2004) Andrew Valasco (b 2004?) “Boy B” (Murderer of Ana Kreigel) (b 2004 or 2005) “Boy A” (Murderer of Ana Kreigel) (b 2004 or 2005) “Joseph” (From Freespeechtube) (b 2004 or 2005) Preston McDuffie (b 2005) Ethan Crumbley (b 2006) Kaia James (b 2006) Claire Miller (b 2007) “OmegaKitten” (From Freespeechtube, but has accounts on multiple websites) (b 2011) If you don’t know who any of these people are, look them up.
You are neglecting the fact that the world is not on a unified cycle.
For example, Putin and Kim are both Nomad, and Ceaușescu was on the edge between Artist and Prophet. You can't apply American generations to other countries. Even those on the same general cycle as us don't match exactly. Canada's 4T could have begun as late as 2015, seven years after the US's.
2001, a very artistic hero and/or a very heroic artist
12-28-2021, 12:16 AM
(12-27-2021, 11:24 PM)galaxy Wrote: You are neglecting the fact that the world is not on a unified cycle. Boomers: Anthony Sowell (1959-2021) the Cleveland Strangler. Murdered 11 women at his home.
A very bad one: David Curtis Stephenson, ambitious leader of the powerful Indiana KKK (1891-1966), fascist thug and murderer-rapist
Figures of the Second KKK include some nasty people who preceded Italian and German fascists in style. Their hatreds failed to culminate in large-scale genocide only because the Klan collapsed in the 1920's even before the Great Depression. Mercifully much Klan activity was bleeding the schmuck membership so people could no longer afford to buy the robes and pay the "Klecktokon" (membership fees) during the Great Depression. I am convinced that the Nazis learned much from the Second Klan. Some others Andrew Kehoe, 1872-1927, mass murderer (school bomber -- in 1927) Chevie Kehoe, 1983- white supremacist involved in three murders with Daniel Lewis Lee, 1973-2020, executed for those Joseph Paul Franklin, racist serial killer (1950-2013), shooter, bomber, and bank robber It would be easy to load the list with Nazis, but I suggest a few: Claus Schilling, 1871-1946, performer of worthless, but lethal medical experiments upon helpless concentration-camp inmates Wilhelm Keitel, 1882-1946, Chief of the OKW, who turned the German Army into the Nazi Army Julius Streicher, 1885-1946, publisher of the vile Der Stuermer that disseminated the Jew-baiting venom that desensitized Germans to what their regime was doing to the Jews Roland Freisler, 1893-1945, "hanging judge" of the dreaded Volksgerichthof infamous for show trials; offered "expert" legal solutions to facilitate the Holocaust Joachim von Ribbentrop, 1893-1946, Foreign Minister of Nazi Germany who arranged the diplomacy behind military aggression Oskar Dirlewanger, 1896-1945, pervert and head of a Nazi brigade of convicted killers that proved unusually sadistic by Nazi standards Rudolf Höss, 1901-1947, Commandant of Auschwitz Concentration Camp (Do not confuse him with Rudolf Hess). Amon Göth, 1908-1946, particularly notable as the arch-villain boss of a concentration camp in Schindler's List (although there were plenty of other mass killers in such roles) Josef Mengele, 1911-1979, perpetrator of sadistic pseudo-medical experiments Irma Grese, 1923-1945, concentration camp guard, killed some inmates by dog attack (Christians to the lions in Rome, Jews to dogs in Nazi Germany... what progress!) Pierre Laval, 1883-1945, French sell-out to the Nazis Kenji Doihara, 1883-1948, Japanese intelligence officer active in Manchuria, but in practice a mobster. Vidkun Quisling, 1887-1946, the Norwegian Nazi who as puppet leader of occupied Norway had his name become synonymous with "Traitor" Ante Pavelić, 1889-1959, Croatian fascist, boss of a regime that rivaled Nazi Germany for cruelty William "Lord Haw-Haw" Joyce, 1906-1946, made treasonous broadcasts from Nazi Germany to the UK. Commies include some real bad ones, too: Andrei Vishinsky, 1883-1954, boss of Stalin's purge trials Mátyás Rákosi, 1892-1971, "Stain's favorite Hungarian pupil" -- created a literal reign of terror in Hungary as Head of the Hungarian Communist Party Klement Gottwald, 1896-1953, dismantled the Czechoslovak democracy and established a brutal, monolithic, repressive regime. Hilde Benjamin 1901-1989, East German judge of many lethal persecutions of political dissidents Jiang Qing. 1914-1991, wife of Mao Zedong and pusher of the Cultural Revolution. ...I am guessing that Ghislaine Maxwell (Jeffrey Epstein's procurer and "coach" of underage girls) will fit here. Do you remember Anita Bryant (1929-) for her anti-gay tirades? ...and Scott Lively (1957-), who wrote the infamous Pink Swastika that associates homosexuality with every imaginable vice? James Levine, 1943-2021, symphony and opera conductor who messed with boys.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.
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