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The "Bad Apples" of each generation
#21
Things are getting ugly. Donald Trump is not helping things calm down.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#22
(11-04-2018, 01:25 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Things are getting ugly. Donald Trump is not helping things calm down.

But we had been a very stressful society long before Trump hit the White House. It began really around the mid-1980s when the speeded up pace of life really kicked in.
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#23
(11-04-2018, 04:09 PM)beechnut79 Wrote:
(11-04-2018, 01:25 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Things are getting ugly. Donald Trump is not helping things calm down.

But we had been a very stressful society long before Trump hit the White House. It began really around the mid-1980s when the speeded up pace of life really kicked in.

Alvin Toffler called it Future Shock. Even benign change can be troublesome because it requires adjustments.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#24
More bad apples:

Gen Xers that are bad apples
Oystein "Euronymous" Aarseth (b. 1968) - Arsonist, psychopath, communist
Robert "Darken" Fudali (b. 1969) - frontman of controversial Polish black metal group Graveland
Karla Homolka (b. 1970) - Notorious female serial killer
Orlando Anderson (b. 1974) - Crip
Georgios Germenis (b. 1978) - vocalist and bassist of controversial Greek black metal group Naer Mataron, member of the Golden Dawn party
El Chino Antrax (b. 1980) - Notorious Mexican drug lord
Lindsay Shookus (b. 1980) - SNL producer that cheated on her husband and abandoned her daughter.

Millennials that are bad apples
Ludovic "Famine" Van Alst (b. 1982) - frontman of NSBM group Peste Noire
Alexei Levkin (b. 1984) - frontman of NSBM group M8l8th, convicted of three murders
Nikko Jenkins (b. 1986) - Murderer from Nebraska
Tamerlan Tsarnaev (b. 1986) - Boston Marathon bomber
Martin Sellner (b. 1989) - Austrian white nationalist, founder of the Identitarian Movement of Austria
Faith Goldy (b. 1989) - Notorious Canadian white nationalist
Blair Cottrell (b. 1989) - Australian neo-Nazi leader
Ian David Long (b. 1990) - the Thousand Oaks shooter (the mass shooting that took place last night) that killed 12 people and himself.
Eli Mosley/Elliott Kline (b. 1991) - Former Identity Evropa leader, lied about military service, called Philadelphia "the city of faggotry love"
Josh Mascharka (b. 1993) - Antifa leader
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (b. 1993) - Boston Marathon bomber
Tom Dupre (b. 1994 or 1995) - Generation Identity leader

Date of birth unknown (but probably Millennials): 
Tara McCarthy - British neo-Nazi
Marcus "The Golden One" Follin - Swedish neo-Nazi

Zeds that are bad apples
Veronica Bouchard/Evalion (b. 1997) - Nazi YouTuber
Shelby Shoup (b. 1998?) - SJW that threw milk at a conservative student on campus.
Kyle Anger (b. 1999) - one of the assailants behind Kenneth White's murder in 2017
Jo Ann Butler (b. 2001) - SJW that attacked her peer that happened to be a Trump supporter
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#25
(11-11-2018, 11:59 AM)Ghost Wrote: More bad apples:
Good list, but I have questions....

Quote:Gen Xers that are bad apples
Oystein "Euronymous" Aarseth (b. 1968) - Arsonist, psychopath, communist
Robert "Darken" Fudali (b. 1969) - frontman of controversial Polish black metal group Graveland

What evil did he commit?

Quote:Karla Homolka (b. 1970) - Notorious female serial killer
Orlando Anderson (b. 1974) - Crip
Georgios Germenis (b. 1978) - vocalist and bassist of controversial Greek black metal group Naer Mataron, member of the Golden Dawn party
El Chino Antrax (b. 1980) - Notorious Mexican drug lord
Lindsay Shookus (b. 1980) - SNL producer that cheated on her husband and abandoned her daughter.

Millennials that are bad apples
Ludovic "Famine" Van Alst (b. 1982) - frontman of NSBM group Peste Noire
Alexei Levkin (b. 1984) - frontman of NSBM group M8l8th, convicted of three murders
Nikko Jenkins (b. 1986) - Murderer from Nebraska
Tamerlan Tsarnaev (b. 1986) - Boston Marathon bomber
Martin Sellner (b. 1989) - Austrian white nationalist, founder of the Identitarian Movement of Austria
Faith Goldy (b. 1989) - Notorious Canadian white nationalist
Blair Cottrell (b. 1989) - Australian neo-Nazi leader
Ian David Long (b. 1990) - the Thousand Oaks shooter (the mass shooting that took place last night) that killed 12 people and himself.
Eli Mosley/Elliott Kline (b. 1991) - Former Identity Evropa leader, lied about military service, called Philadelphia "the city of faggotry love"
Josh Mascharka (b. 1993) - Antifa leader

What has he done that is bad?

Quote:Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (b. 1993) - Boston Marathon bomber
Tom Dupre (b. 1994 or 1995) - Generation Identity leader

Date of birth unknown (but probably Millennials): 
Tara McCarthy - British neo-Nazi
Marcus "The Golden One" Follin - Swedish neo-Nazi

Zeds that are bad apples

These are also Millennials. The Pew dating is wrong.

Quote:Veronica Bouchard/Evalion (b. 1997) - Nazi YouTuber
Shelby Shoup (b. 1998?) - SJW that threw milk at a conservative student on campus.

Seems more like a prank than an evil deed

Quote:Kyle Anger (b. 1999) - one of the assailants behind Kenneth White's murder in 2017
Jo Ann Butler (b. 2001) - SJW that attacked her peer that happened to be a Trump supporter
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#26
(11-04-2018, 04:09 PM)beechnut79 Wrote:
(11-04-2018, 01:25 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Things are getting ugly. Donald Trump is not helping things calm down.

But we had been a very stressful society long before Trump hit the White House. It began really around the mid-1980s when the speeded up pace of life really kicked in.

I blame Reagan and those of his mindset. The Trump crowd is basically the same as the Reagan crowd.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

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#27
(11-12-2018, 02:17 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-04-2018, 04:09 PM)beechnut79 Wrote:
(11-04-2018, 01:25 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Things are getting ugly. Donald Trump is not helping things calm down.

But we had been a very stressful society long before Trump hit the White House. It began really around the mid-1980s when the speeded up pace of life really kicked in.

I blame Reagan and those of his mindset. The Trump crowd is basically the same as the Reagan crowd.

But that crowd has gotten worse over time.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#28
Whyis Ché on this list? & Booker the Big Pharma Hooker "not allowed"? :rofl: why is he "not allowed"?
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#29
(11-12-2018, 06:07 PM)Marypoza Wrote: Whyis Ché on this list? & Booker the Big Pharma Hooker "not allowed"? :rofl: why is he "not allowrd"?

Cory Booker? He is not a bad apple, just because he made a few decisions (for good reasons actually, I think, which he backtracked on, I believe) that we don't agree with. If he's a bad apple, then so are half the other Democrats in office, and I don't buy that. But I too wonder a bit about Che. He was something of a cutthroat revolutionary; not always a pleasant kind of person Smile
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#30
(11-12-2018, 08:37 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 06:07 PM)Marypoza Wrote: Whyis Ché on this list? & Booker the Big Pharma Hooker "not allowed"? :rofl: why is he "not allowrd"?

Cory Booker? He is not a bad apple, just because he made a few decisions (for good reasons actually, I think, which he backtracked on, I believe) that we don't agree with. If he's a bad apple, then so are half the other Democrats in office, and I don't buy that. But I too wonder a bit about Che. He was something of a cutthroat revolutionary; not always a pleasant kind of person Smile

Well, he's what I'd call a wormy apple! Wormy apples is a term to use for apples which have some sort of infestation tied to them. They can become good apples when cleaned of worms in time. If the worms stay too long, then those kine of apples become bad.The question is is Cory Booker still infested with Big Pharma worms? So, ya better check on Cory Booker.
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#31
(11-12-2018, 08:37 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 06:07 PM)Marypoza Wrote: Whyis Ché on this list? & Booker the Big Pharma Hooker "not allowed"? :rofl: why is he "not allowrd"?

Cory Booker? He is not a bad apple, just because he made a few decisions (for good reasons actually, I think, which he backtracked on, I believe) that we don't agree with. If he's a bad apple, then so are half the other Democrats in office, and I don't buy that. But I too wonder a bit about Che. He was something of a cutthroat revolutionary; not always a pleasant kind of person Smile

--  what good reason is there 2 vote against expanding Medicare, or price capping drugs, or letting ppl get their drugs from Canada?  Oh yeah, his Big Pharma pimps wouldn't like that. I like Rags term of  a wormy apple & you know those Big Pharma worms arin't going away
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#32
(11-12-2018, 09:00 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 08:37 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 06:07 PM)Marypoza Wrote: Whyis Ché on this list? & Booker the Big Pharma Hooker "not allowed"? :rofl: why is he "not allowrd"?

Cory Booker? He is not a bad apple, just because he made a few decisions (for good reasons actually, I think, which he backtracked on, I believe) that we don't agree with. If he's a bad apple, then so are half the other Democrats in office, and I don't buy that. But I too wonder a bit about Che. He was something of a cutthroat revolutionary; not always a pleasant kind of person Smile

Well, he's what I'd call a wormy apple! Wormy apples is a term to use for apples which have some sort of infestation tied to them. They can become good apples when cleaned of worms in time. If the worms stay too long, then those kine of apples become bad.The question is is Cory Booker still infested with Big Pharma worms? So, ya better check on Cory Booker.

Might not be the one to vote for. He's a moderate-liberal who only scores 6-7. But a bad apple in the sense here means a really misformed person who is damaged goods and inflicts damage on others. Brower pointed out that political figures might not necessarily fit because it's a matter of opinion. We might not agree with Booker all the time, but most politicians are worse. So, should we include most politicians as bad apples? Maybe, but, maybe not.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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#33
(11-12-2018, 11:10 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 09:00 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 08:37 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 06:07 PM)Marypoza Wrote: Whyis Ché on this list? & Booker the Big Pharma Hooker "not allowed"? :rofl: why is he "not allowrd"?

Cory Booker? He is not a bad apple, just because he made a few decisions (for good reasons actually, I think, which he backtracked on, I believe) that we don't agree with. If he's a bad apple, then so are half the other Democrats in office, and I don't buy that. But I too wonder a bit about Che. He was something of a cutthroat revolutionary; not always a pleasant kind of person Smile

Well, he's what I'd call a wormy apple! Wormy apples is a term to use for apples which have some sort of infestation tied to them. They can become good apples when cleaned of worms in time. If the worms stay too long, then those kine of apples become bad.The question is is Cory Booker still infested with Big Pharma worms? So, ya better check on Cory Booker.

Might not be the one to vote for. He's a moderate-liberal who only scores 6-7. But a bad apple in the sense here means a really misformed person who is damaged goods and inflicts damage on others. Brower pointed out that political figures might not necessarily fit because it's a matter of opinion. We might not agree with Booker all the time, but most politicians are worse. So, should we include most politicians as bad apples? Maybe, but, maybe not.

-- should we include the Donald?  (Uh-hunh l thought so)
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(11-12-2018, 11:16 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 11:10 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 09:00 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 08:37 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-12-2018, 06:07 PM)Marypoza Wrote: Whyis Ché on this list? & Booker the Big Pharma Hooker "not allowed"? :rofl: why is he "not allowrd"?

Cory Booker? He is not a bad apple, just because he made a few decisions (for good reasons actually, I think, which he backtracked on, I believe) that we don't agree with. If he's a bad apple, then so are half the other Democrats in office, and I don't buy that. But I too wonder a bit about Che. He was something of a cutthroat revolutionary; not always a pleasant kind of person Smile

Well, he's what I'd call a wormy apple! Wormy apples is a term to use for apples which have some sort of infestation tied to them. They can become good apples when cleaned of worms in time. If the worms stay too long, then those kine of apples become bad.The question is is Cory Booker still infested with Big Pharma worms? So, ya better check on Cory Booker.

Might not be the one to vote for. He's a moderate-liberal who only scores 6-7. But a bad apple in the sense here means a really misformed person who is damaged goods and inflicts damage on others. Brower pointed out that political figures might not necessarily fit because it's a matter of opinion. We might not agree with Booker all the time, but most politicians are worse. So, should we include most politicians as bad apples? Maybe, but, maybe not.

-- should we include the Donald?  (Uh-hunh l thought so)

Wrt, The Donald.  Well, I have algorithm, a spoil apple spoils the bunch. So, that most likely again means lots of worms which do spoil the bunch. That means one should select politicians such that the total number worms is minimal. With those you can do a second worm check to make sure you can have your apples and health too.
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#35
It's a good question about the Donald.

I imagine most of us have some worms in our apple. It's a question of how many, I guess.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

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#36
(11-12-2018, 02:15 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-11-2018, 11:59 AM)Ghost Wrote: More bad apples:
Good list, but I have questions....

Quote:Gen Xers that are bad apples
Oystein "Euronymous" Aarseth (b. 1968) - Arsonist, psychopath, communist
Robert "Darken" Fudali (b. 1969) - frontman of controversial Polish black metal group Graveland

What evil did he commit?

Quote:Karla Homolka (b. 1970) - Notorious female serial killer
Orlando Anderson (b. 1974) - Crip
Georgios Germenis (b. 1978) - vocalist and bassist of controversial Greek black metal group Naer Mataron, member of the Golden Dawn party
El Chino Antrax (b. 1980) - Notorious Mexican drug lord
Lindsay Shookus (b. 1980) - SNL producer that cheated on her husband and abandoned her daughter.

Millennials that are bad apples
Ludovic "Famine" Van Alst (b. 1982) - frontman of NSBM group Peste Noire
Alexei Levkin (b. 1984) - frontman of NSBM group M8l8th, convicted of three murders
Nikko Jenkins (b. 1986) - Murderer from Nebraska
Tamerlan Tsarnaev (b. 1986) - Boston Marathon bomber
Martin Sellner (b. 1989) - Austrian white nationalist, founder of the Identitarian Movement of Austria
Faith Goldy (b. 1989) - Notorious Canadian white nationalist
Blair Cottrell (b. 1989) - Australian neo-Nazi leader
Ian David Long (b. 1990) - the Thousand Oaks shooter (the mass shooting that took place last night) that killed 12 people and himself.
Eli Mosley/Elliott Kline (b. 1991) - Former Identity Evropa leader, lied about military service, called Philadelphia "the city of faggotry love"
Josh Mascharka (b. 1993) - Antifa leader

What has he done that is bad?

Quote:Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (b. 1993) - Boston Marathon bomber
Tom Dupre (b. 1994 or 1995) - Generation Identity leader

Date of birth unknown (but probably Millennials): 
Tara McCarthy - British neo-Nazi
Marcus "The Golden One" Follin - Swedish neo-Nazi

Zeds that are bad apples

These are also Millennials. The Pew dating is wrong.

Quote:Veronica Bouchard/Evalion (b. 1997) - Nazi YouTuber
Shelby Shoup (b. 1998?) - SJW that threw milk at a conservative student on campus.

Seems more like a prank than an evil deed

Quote:Kyle Anger (b. 1999) - one of the assailants behind Kenneth White's murder in 2017
Jo Ann Butler (b. 2001) - SJW that attacked her peer that happened to be a Trump supporter

Oystein Aarseth (b. 1968): Aarseth made a necklace out of his friend's bones and took pictures of his body. He also participated in the burning of the Holmenkollen church.
Rob Fudali (b. 1969): Graveland is a very controversial band and Fudali/Darken has neo-Nazi views.
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#37
Fudali could be bad. I know very little about obscure foreign bands, but he sounds bad. I was asking about him, not Aarseth.

Some Eastern European regimes seem to be going in the wrong direction now.
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#38
(11-17-2018, 04:01 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Fudali could be bad. I know very little about obscure foreign bands, but he sounds bad. I was asking about him, not Aarseth.

Some Eastern European regimes seem to be going in the wrong direction now.

Here's more information about the guy:

*Fudali founded The Temple of Fullmoon (an NSBM "society" in Poland) sometime in the mid 90's. Apparently, I heard that the group was violent:

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*Here is a photo of Fudali with the members of the controversial group Honor in 1999. Fudali is the one in the left wearing a helmet and carrying a sword:

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#39
Yet another bad apple has fallen from the tree:

Daniel "6IX9INE" Hernandez (b. 1996)

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He was involved in sexual misconduct and is now facing 32 years to life for federal criminal charges that include firearm charges and gang-involved racketeering.
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(11-21-2018, 01:50 PM)Ghost Wrote: Lindsey Smith (age unknown, but she is probably a Millennial): Notorious #Resister and both an anti-white and anti-male bigot

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What has this person done, specifically?  I couldn't find anything about her on a quick google search, for all that she's "notorious."
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