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[split] Rise Of Tribalism, Racism & Bigotry Most Associated With Which Turning & Why? - YARTed
#21
(05-07-2019, 05:41 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 10:55 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: On the old Forum he really was a Stalinist.  He denied Stalin's crimes and suggested that Stalinist economics were the best hope for Humanity.

Have you ever read Eric Hoffer's The True Believer? It exposes the moral emptiness of extremists and the ease of going from one anti-human ideology to another. I start with his observation about opposites:

Quote:The opposite of a raging fascist is not a raging communist. The opposite of a raging fascist is a sober liberal.


Many fascists were extreme Leftists before going to the ultra-nationalist, elitist Right. In view of The True Believer, it is not so surprising that a neo-Nazi becomes a member of ISIS, that a former head of the French Communist Party became a leading member of a collaborationist party in Vichy France, or that brutal enforcers of such fascist cliques (Hlinka Guard, Arrow Cross, iron Guard, and Ustase) became enforcers for Commie rule. The dreaded Nazi "hanging judge" Roland Friesler had been a toady of the Bolsheviks while a prisoner during the Bolshevik Revolution (he had been captured by the tsar's armies); one Nazi official had said of him "Friesler is our Vishinsky!", referring to the leading judge of Stalin's purge trials. One of the people executed with Mussolini at the end of World War II As a gay black man, Kinsler can of course never become a Nazi or a Ku Kluxist, for obvious reasons.

The extremist is usually ruthless, emotionally hollow, and amoral; as a substitute for morality he chooses an easily-learned code that justifies his worst tendencies. Harsh measures against pariahs will allegedly transcend the will to kill, rape, steal, and lie; one's cruelty toward pariahs is charity toward Humanity as a whole.
You support socialism and you view socialism as being the best hope for humanity today. I don't see why you're upset about him supporting the same economic system as you do back then.

Because it wasn't his own particular brand of socialism.  Never mind that all forms of socialism, national or international (Marxian), have a tendency to degenerate into dictatorships of Party.
It really is all mathematics.

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#22
Big, irresponsible government, whatever its ideology, almost always degenerates into tyranny. Socialism without democracy is a sham.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#23
(05-08-2019, 12:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 04:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(05-06-2019, 02:52 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Well, if you don't believe in Jesus, you probably won't get the chance to see/experience heaven. Do you have a problem with accepting that probability as a reality when the time comes?

High on my list of extreme improbabilities is the concept that a supreme being would be so petulant and petty that failing to believe in his/her meme would make you a permanent exile from his/her heaven.  It's irrationality at its worst.
Dude, Heaven's doors aren't  open to the public. One has to please Jesus and prove themselves worthy of belonging before entering Heaven. I wonder what Queen Nancy going to do when she learns that her ticket that she purchased for herself is fake and learns that  Jesus is an asshole  doesn't care how important she thinks she is or how much she's spent making herself look good to everyone else.

My partner who happens to be Christian says the same thing. However believes that one does not have to believe in a God to find your "heaven" when you die. You just have to be a good person and he states also that there are some pretty shitty Christians who do not follow what their bible and church preaches. That basically actions speak louder than their supposed beliefs. He stated Pope Francis also said that those who are kind will find their "heaven" when they die and will not be separated from their loved ones as some toxic individuals preach and/or will not suffer in death. Of course I do not believe in the theory, but its the toxic connotation attached to such ideas that does disturb me. I actually like my partners interpretation of his belief. Far healthier than some who state one must be a believer and if not one will burn in hell regardless if you have lived a kind hearted selfless life. Not a very healthy belief system some have.

Most likely, people will end up where they deserve to go. I certainly do not want to go where the Nazis are! I would hate to be among drunks and addicts, too, who are far less objectionable than the killers, rapists, and scammers. To be free from the troubles that come from a mental syndrome that makes love and joy practically impossible would be great. Farewell, emotional, cultural, and material poverty!

Besides -- what if everyone is wrong about the nature of a merciful God?
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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#24
(05-08-2019, 01:56 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(05-08-2019, 12:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 04:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(05-06-2019, 02:52 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Well, if you don't believe in Jesus, you probably won't get the chance to see/experience heaven. Do you have a problem with accepting that probability as a reality when the time comes?

High on my list of extreme improbabilities is the concept that a supreme being would be so petulant and petty that failing to believe in his/her meme would make you a permanent exile from his/her heaven.  It's irrationality at its worst.
Dude, Heaven's doors aren't  open to the public. One has to please Jesus and prove themselves worthy of belonging before entering Heaven. I wonder what Queen Nancy going to do when she learns that her ticket that she purchased for herself is fake and learns that  Jesus is an asshole  doesn't care how important she thinks she is or how much she's spent making herself look good to everyone else.

My partner who happens to be Christian says the same thing. However believes that one does not have to believe in a God to find your "heaven" when you die. You just have to be a good person and he states also that there are some pretty shitty Christians who do not follow what their bible and church preaches. That basically actions speak louder than their supposed beliefs. He stated Pope Francis also said that those who are kind will find their "heaven" when they die and will not be separated from their loved ones as some toxic individuals preach and/or will not suffer in death. Of course I do not believe in the theory, but its the toxic connotation attached to such ideas that does disturb me. I actually like my partners interpretation of his belief. Far healthier than some who state one must be a believer and if not one will burn in hell regardless if you have lived a kind hearted selfless life. Not a very healthy belief system some have.

Most likely, people will end up where they deserve to go. I certainly do not want to go where the Nazis are! I would hate to be among drunks and addicts, too, who are far less objectionable than the killers, rapists, and scammers. To be free from the troubles that come from a mental syndrome that makes love and joy practically impossible would be great. Farewell, emotional, cultural, and material poverty!

Besides -- what if everyone is wrong about the nature of a merciful God?
Personally I think its idealism gone wild. Anything is possible when we kick the bucket.
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#25
(05-06-2019, 02:52 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-06-2019, 02:05 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-06-2019, 01:41 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-05-2019, 10:54 PM)taramarie Wrote: Being Christian doesn't make a person good and being a non Christian does not make a person an asshole. Anyone with a brain should know that one. An asshole is just an asshole whatever belief system. Actions and beliefs notoriously do not play well if one is not a well person. The hypocrisies are startling especially when it comes to those of faith going by their supposed beliefs. I have had Christians tell me it does not matter how good a person you are. If you don't believe, you will burn. As a non believer I laughed it off, but still found it interesting how some think its a fkn club and only they are "pure" of sin and can find peace after death. What a load of toxic rubbish.
I wouldn't get upset about a tinch of Christian anymore than I'd get upset about a non Christian. Whatever...

This is not an upset. This is an observation.
Well, if you don't believe in Jesus, you probably won't get the chance to see/experience heaven. Do you have a problem with accepting that probability as a reality when the time comes? I doubt that you have the power over rule Jesus's decision. You seem like a decent person who doesn't really have to worry about being burned in hell. I'm in the same group of people as you as far as that goes. Me, I really like American life and I really like being an American. So, I wouldn't mind coming back and making sure that America stays the way that is down the road if that option is available to me when the time comes.

I thought you said you were not on board with traditional Christianity and fundamentalism. You said you think you must believe in Jesus to go to heaven. That's fundamentalism. That's what the religious right says.

America is a nation of immigrants. If America stays the way America is, that means it will guarantee freedom of speech and press and basic rights for all regardless of race or creed, and it will be even more America if it repeals the 2nd Amendment.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

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#26
(05-08-2019, 01:26 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Big, irresponsible government, whatever its ideology, almost always degenerates into tyranny. Socialism without democracy is a sham.

Socialism itself is big, irresponsible government.  And what many people think of being democracy is a sham.  It really amounts to people voting themselves other people's money by means of the state.

If democracy is to be desired--and I'm not sure it is in and of itself--then the franchise needs to be limited.  Ideally I think to those who have already demonstrated a willingness to lay down their lives for the body politic.  Starship Troopers style.
It really is all mathematics.

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#27
(05-08-2019, 01:56 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Besides -- what if everyone is wrong about the nature of a merciful God?

What if everyone is wrong about a god even existing.  Surely if there was omniscient, omnipresent, supernatural being, whether he, she, it or they actually cared about the affairs of humans there would be periodic evidence of their existence.  Yet, so far nothing.

After all it isn't like we're contemplating the belief in the existence of humans by ants.  They would see periodic evidence of our existence in their running about day to day lives. Simply drop a piece of hard candy on the pavement.
It really is all mathematics.

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#28
(05-09-2019, 07:27 PM)TheNomad Wrote:
(05-08-2019, 12:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 04:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(05-06-2019, 02:52 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Well, if you don't believe in Jesus, you probably won't get the chance to see/experience heaven. Do you have a problem with accepting that probability as a reality when the time comes?

High on my list of extreme improbabilities is the concept that a supreme being would be so petulant and petty that failing to believe in his/her meme would make you a permanent exile from his/her heaven.  It's irrationality at its worst.
Dude, Heaven's doors aren't  open to the public. One has to please Jesus and prove themselves worthy of belonging before entering Heaven. I wonder what Queen Nancy going to do when she learns that her ticket that she purchased for herself is fake and learns that  Jesus is an asshole  doesn't care how important she thinks she is or how much she's spent making herself look good to everyone else.
My partner who happens to be Christian says the same thing. However believes that one does not have to believe in a God to find your "heaven" when you die. You just have to be a good person and he states also that there are some pretty shitty Christians who do not follow what their bible and church preaches. That basically actions speak louder than their supposed beliefs. He stated pope francis also said that those who are kind will find their "heaven" when they die and will not be separated from their loved ones as some toxic individuals preach and/or will not suffer in death. Of course I do not believe in the theory, but its the toxic connotation attached to such ideas that does disturb me. I actually like my partners interpretation of his belief. Far healthier than some who state one must be a believer and if not one will burn in hell regardless if you have lived a kind hearted selfless life. Not a very healthy belief system some have.

this thread is

Rise Of Tribalism, Racism & Bigotry Most Associated With Which Turning & Why?

what does jesus or heaven have going on in that?

or burning in hell or any of that?

please move this thread to the off-topic/trash bin.

I began this thread, why don't i have the ability to delete it once it becomes a wasteland for babbling herds in the wilderness?

if a mod does not start doing their job, im going to SPAM this shit to death.
Lol calm down this happens in every thread. What makes your thread so special? This is what makes interesting discussion.
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#29
You have been reported for threatening to spam a topic which is actually against the rules if you bothered to read them, nomad.
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#30
(05-09-2019, 07:27 PM)TheNomad Wrote:
(05-08-2019, 12:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 04:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(05-06-2019, 02:52 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Well, if you don't believe in Jesus, you probably won't get the chance to see/experience heaven. Do you have a problem with accepting that probability as a reality when the time comes?

High on my list of extreme improbabilities is the concept that a supreme being would be so petulant and petty that failing to believe in his/her meme would make you a permanent exile from his/her heaven.  It's irrationality at its worst.
Dude, Heaven's doors aren't  open to the public. One has to please Jesus and prove themselves worthy of belonging before entering Heaven. I wonder what Queen Nancy going to do when she learns that her ticket that she purchased for herself is fake and learns that  Jesus is an asshole  doesn't care how important she thinks she is or how much she's spent making herself look good to everyone else.
My partner who happens to be Christian says the same thing. However believes that one does not have to believe in a God to find your "heaven" when you die. You just have to be a good person and he states also that there are some pretty shitty Christians who do not follow what their bible and church preaches. That basically actions speak louder than their supposed beliefs. He stated pope francis also said that those who are kind will find their "heaven" when they die and will not be separated from their loved ones as some toxic individuals preach and/or will not suffer in death. Of course I do not believe in the theory, but its the toxic connotation attached to such ideas that does disturb me. I actually like my partners interpretation of his belief. Far healthier than some who state one must be a believer and if not one will burn in hell regardless if you have lived a kind hearted selfless life. Not a very healthy belief system some have.

this thread is

Rise Of Tribalism, Racism & Bigotry Most Associated With Which Turning & Why?

what does jesus or heaven have going on in that?

or burning in hell or any of that?

please move this thread to the off-topic/trash bin.

I began this thread, why don't i have the ability to delete it once it becomes a wasteland for babbling herds in the wilderness?

if a mod does not start doing their job, im going to SPAM this shit to death.

1. I'm going to delete the spams you already made.

2. Nitpicking on the contents of a thread is beyond the pail and spamming due to being butt hurt isn't the answer.

3. Do not spam any threads. I'd have to put on moderation as a first step.
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#31
(05-09-2019, 09:46 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-09-2019, 07:27 PM)TheNomad Wrote:
(05-08-2019, 12:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 04:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote: High on my list of extreme improbabilities is the concept that a supreme being would be so petulant and petty that failing to believe in his/her meme would make you a permanent exile from his/her heaven.  It's irrationality at its worst.
Dude, Heaven's doors aren't  open to the public. One has to please Jesus and prove themselves worthy of belonging before entering Heaven. I wonder what Queen Nancy going to do when she learns that her ticket that she purchased for herself is fake and learns that  Jesus is an asshole  doesn't care how important she thinks she is or how much she's spent making herself look good to everyone else.
My partner who happens to be Christian says the same thing. However believes that one does not have to believe in a God to find your "heaven" when you die. You just have to be a good person and he states also that there are some pretty shitty Christians who do not follow what their bible and church preaches. That basically actions speak louder than their supposed beliefs. He stated pope francis also said that those who are kind will find their "heaven" when they die and will not be separated from their loved ones as some toxic individuals preach and/or will not suffer in death. Of course I do not believe in the theory, but its the toxic connotation attached to such ideas that does disturb me. I actually like my partners interpretation of his belief. Far healthier than some who state one must be a believer and if not one will burn in hell regardless if you have lived a kind hearted selfless life. Not a very healthy belief system some have.

this thread is

Rise Of Tribalism, Racism & Bigotry Most Associated With Which Turning & Why?

what does jesus or heaven have going on in that?

or burning in hell or any of that?

please move this thread to the off-topic/trash bin.

I began this thread, why don't i have the ability to delete it once it becomes a wasteland for babbling herds in the wilderness?

if a mod does not start doing their job, im going to SPAM this shit to death.
Lol calm down this happens in every thread. What makes your thread so special? This is what makes interesting discussion.

What makes it "special" is that it is "his" thread and he expects that it will stay exactly on the topic he thinks it should even though having been on this and the old forum for over 10 years I can tell you that never happens.  And such isn't just a feature (and it is a feature not a bug) of this forum but every other forum I've ever encountered with mixed company.

It is clear he hasn't learned that the topic of a thread is whatever the posters in the thread desire it to be, whether they are creating it or replying to it.  IIRC I ended up arguing with Eric over astrology in my Wheels Within Wheels thread which directly dealt with my Mega-Saeculum Hypothesis, and I had no problem with him being an Ignoramus in it--of course that was back when I still bothered to read things he posted (these days I just skip them unless he is unintentionally right about something [broken clocks and stuff]).
It really is all mathematics.

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#32
(05-09-2019, 10:07 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(05-09-2019, 09:46 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-09-2019, 07:27 PM)TheNomad Wrote:
(05-08-2019, 12:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 04:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Dude, Heaven's doors aren't  open to the public. One has to please Jesus and prove themselves worthy of belonging before entering Heaven. I wonder what Queen Nancy going to do when she learns that her ticket that she purchased for herself is fake and learns that  Jesus is an asshole  doesn't care how important she thinks she is or how much she's spent making herself look good to everyone else.
My partner who happens to be Christian says the same thing. However believes that one does not have to believe in a God to find your "heaven" when you die. You just have to be a good person and he states also that there are some pretty shitty Christians who do not follow what their bible and church preaches. That basically actions speak louder than their supposed beliefs. He stated pope francis also said that those who are kind will find their "heaven" when they die and will not be separated from their loved ones as some toxic individuals preach and/or will not suffer in death. Of course I do not believe in the theory, but its the toxic connotation attached to such ideas that does disturb me. I actually like my partners interpretation of his belief. Far healthier than some who state one must be a believer and if not one will burn in hell regardless if you have lived a kind hearted selfless life. Not a very healthy belief system some have.

this thread is

Rise Of Tribalism, Racism & Bigotry Most Associated With Which Turning & Why?

what does jesus or heaven have going on in that?

or burning in hell or any of that?

please move this thread to the off-topic/trash bin.

I began this thread, why don't i have the ability to delete it once it becomes a wasteland for babbling herds in the wilderness?

if a mod does not start doing their job, im going to SPAM this shit to death.
Lol calm down this happens in every thread. What makes your thread so special? This is what makes interesting discussion.

What makes it "special" is that it is "his" thread and he expects that it will stay exactly on the topic he thinks it should even though having been on this and the old forum for over 10 years I can tell you that never happens.  And such isn't just a feature (and it is a feature not a bug) of this forum but every other forum I've ever encountered with mixed company.

It is clear he hasn't learned that the topic of a thread is whatever the posters in the thread desire it to be, whether they are creating it or replying to it.  IIRC I ended up arguing with Eric over astrology in my Wheels Within Wheels thread which directly dealt with my Mega-Saeculum Hypothesis, and I had no problem with him being an Ignoramus in it--of course that was back when I still bothered to read things he posted (these days I just skip them unless he is unintentionally right about something [broken clocks and stuff]).
Very true it is his thread and likewise true that it really depends on if the posters wish to stay on topic or not. Personally I find the conversation far more fascinating when it delves into all sorts of topics. I get that he wants it to stay on topic but it is likely it wont. I suggest to him that if he really wants it to stay on topic the most pragmatic way to encourage it to go back onto his desired topic, he should then post something relevant to the topic instead of throwing his toys and threatening people with spam and doing his large screamy "tone" of typed words on here.
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#33
(05-09-2019, 10:07 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(05-09-2019, 09:46 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-09-2019, 07:27 PM)TheNomad Wrote:
(05-08-2019, 12:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 04:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Dude, Heaven's doors aren't  open to the public. One has to please Jesus and prove themselves worthy of belonging before entering Heaven. I wonder what Queen Nancy going to do when she learns that her ticket that she purchased for herself is fake and learns that  Jesus is an asshole  doesn't care how important she thinks she is or how much she's spent making herself look good to everyone else.
My partner who happens to be Christian says the same thing. However believes that one does not have to believe in a God to find your "heaven" when you die. You just have to be a good person and he states also that there are some pretty shitty Christians who do not follow what their bible and church preaches. That basically actions speak louder than their supposed beliefs. He stated pope francis also said that those who are kind will find their "heaven" when they die and will not be separated from their loved ones as some toxic individuals preach and/or will not suffer in death. Of course I do not believe in the theory, but its the toxic connotation attached to such ideas that does disturb me. I actually like my partners interpretation of his belief. Far healthier than some who state one must be a believer and if not one will burn in hell regardless if you have lived a kind hearted selfless life. Not a very healthy belief system some have.

this thread is

Rise Of Tribalism, Racism & Bigotry Most Associated With Which Turning & Why?

what does jesus or heaven have going on in that?

or burning in hell or any of that?

please move this thread to the off-topic/trash bin.

I began this thread, why don't i have the ability to delete it once it becomes a wasteland for babbling herds in the wilderness?

if a mod does not start doing their job, im going to SPAM this shit to death.
Lol calm down this happens in every thread. What makes your thread so special? This is what makes interesting discussion.

What makes it "special" is that it is "his" thread and he expects that it will stay exactly on the topic he thinks it should even though having been on this and the old forum for over 10 years I can tell you that never happens.  And such isn't just a feature (and it is a feature not a bug) of this forum but every other forum I've ever encountered with mixed company.

It is clear he hasn't learned that the topic of a thread is whatever the posters in the thread desire it to be, whether they are creating it or replying to it.  IIRC I ended up arguing with Eric over astrology in my Wheels Within Wheels thread which directly dealt with my Mega-Saeculum Hypothesis, and I had no problem with him being an Ignoramus in it--of course that was back when I still bothered to read things he posted (these days I just skip them unless he is unintentionally right about something [broken clocks and stuff]).
As for Eric, he is still very entertaining whether he is correct or not.
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#34
That was a valid suggestion to be sure, but I doubt that he will take it. He seems to be of the opinion that whining works. Which makes me question if Nomad really is a nomad. Typically we just get on with it. Or at least I do. Xers have a generational catch phrase. "Whatever, dude". We've been saying it for decades.

I find Eric annoying mostly, rather than entertaining. Unless by entertaining you mean incoherent Boomer posting incoherently. But then again he reminds me strongly of my mother who is into all sorts of new age woo-woo. Me, I only have time for new age woo-woo when it can make me money, like when I worked for that call center where I got paid to keep people paying 2 bucks a minute for me to read them a script.
It really is all mathematics.

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#35
Thanks Rags. You're a champ. As I mentioned, the most pragmatic way for our Nomad to keep it on his desired topic is for him to contribute information relative to the desired topic which the posters here could be interested in discussing. They don't have to, but they could wish to discuss relevant topics he contributes to his thread. It is a far more efficient way to get your desired outcome instead of throwing a hissy. You cant make people do as you wish. This is how it is in forums unless the original discussion keeps up with the original discussion starter topic and even then, expect that it will lead to other topics that are considered in a discussion. That is what makes for a fascinating and ever fresh discussion. Thumbupleft
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#36
(05-09-2019, 10:34 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: That was a valid suggestion to be sure, but I doubt that he will take it.  He seems to be of the opinion that whining works.  Which makes me question if Nomad really is a nomad.  Typically we just get on with it.  Or at least I do.  Xers have a generational catch phrase.  "Whatever, dude".  We've been saying it for decades.

I find Eric annoying mostly, rather than entertaining.  Unless by entertaining you mean incoherent Boomer posting incoherently. But then again he reminds me strongly of my mother who is into all sorts of new age woo-woo.  Me, I only have time for new age woo-woo when it can make me money, like when I worked for that call center where I got paid to keep people paying 2 bucks a minute for me to read them a script.

Yes partly that. 

Well as for him taking the advice or not, it is up to him. Just a far more pragmatic suggestion for him to help him with his desired outcome. If he wishes to spam though, unfortunately he will only fail in his attempts to get what he desires. If he is a nomad, he really is a whiney one, especially for his age as he would be even older than I am and I am a older civic.
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#37
(05-09-2019, 10:34 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: That was a valid suggestion to be sure, but I doubt that he will take it.  He seems to be of the opinion that whining works.  Which makes me question if Nomad really is a nomad.  Typically we just get on with it.  Or at least I do.  Xers have a generational catch phrase.  "Whatever, dude".  We've been saying it for decades.

I find Eric annoying mostly, rather than entertaining.  Unless by entertaining you mean incoherent Boomer posting incoherently. But then again he reminds me strongly of my mother who is into all sorts of new age woo-woo.  Me, I only have time for new age woo-woo when it can make me money, like when I worked for that call center where I got paid to keep people paying 2 bucks a minute for me to read them a script.

Fortunately my younger boomer mother is not into woo woo. However she is very reckless with money and expects me to clean up her financial mess and treats me like crap when I have stated no, I have enough financial problems of my own and trying to make a stable start in my life. Oh well, soon ill be in Slovakia with my partner and be away from that boomers mess. She taught me something valuable though. To be careful with finances and I am grateful for the lesson.
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#38
(05-08-2019, 07:26 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(05-06-2019, 02:52 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-06-2019, 02:05 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-06-2019, 01:41 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-05-2019, 10:54 PM)taramarie Wrote: Being Christian doesn't make a person good and being a non Christian does not make a person an asshole. Anyone with a brain should know that one. An asshole is just an asshole whatever belief system. Actions and beliefs notoriously do not play well if one is not a well person. The hypocrisies are startling especially when it comes to those of faith going by their supposed beliefs. I have had Christians tell me it does not matter how good a person you are. If you don't believe, you will burn. As a non believer I laughed it off, but still found it interesting how some think its a fkn club and only they are "pure" of sin and can find peace after death. What a load of toxic rubbish.
I wouldn't get upset about a tinch of Christian anymore than I'd get upset about a non Christian. Whatever...

This is not an upset. This is an observation.
Well, if you don't believe in Jesus, you probably won't get the chance to see/experience heaven. Do you have a problem with accepting that probability as a reality when the time comes? I doubt that you have the power over rule Jesus's decision. You seem like a decent person who doesn't really have to worry about being burned in hell. I'm in the same group of people as you as far as that goes. Me, I really like American life and I really like being an American. So, I wouldn't mind coming back and making sure that America stays the way that is down the road if that option is available to me when the time comes.

I thought you said you were not on board with traditional Christianity and fundamentalism. You said you think you must believe in Jesus to go to heaven. That's fundamentalism. That's what the religious right says.

America is a nation of immigrants. If America stays the way America is, that means it will guarantee freedom of speech and press and basic rights for all regardless of race or creed, and it will be even more America if it repeals the 2nd Amendment.
I'm not on board with those who claim that one has to believe in Jesus or they'll burn in hell.  However, I do believe that one must believe in Jesus and prove they're a good Christian in order to earn the right to enter Heaven when the time comes. BTW, if the 2nd Amendment is ever repealed by a liberal court then America will no longer be America anymore. BTW, we will part ways and turn the entire blue world upside down before that ever happens and the blues can find out for themselves what its really like to be ruled by dictators. Queen Nancy has a lot of power over spineless/ worthless Democrats. So, while you and other blues are busy weakening the Democratic party, we'll continue weeding out inept politicians and further strengthening your competition.
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(05-09-2019, 10:22 PM)taramarie Wrote: Very true it is his thread and likewise true that it really depends on if the posters wish to stay on topic or not. Personally I find the conversation far more fascinating when it delves into all sorts of topics. I get that he wants it to stay on topic but it is likely it wont. I suggest to him that if he really wants it to stay on topic the most pragmatic way to encourage it to go back onto his desired topic, he should then post something relevant to the topic instead of throwing his toys and threatening people with spam and doing his large screamy "tone" of typed words on here.
I guess he's not interested in learning anything from his thread by reading different points of views from different tribal members and so forth. Why do liberal blues get so upset and butt hurt when things don't seem to go there way? The boring thread would have died if wouldn't have livened it up.
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(05-09-2019, 10:03 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(05-09-2019, 07:27 PM)TheNomad Wrote:
(05-08-2019, 12:56 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 04:02 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(05-07-2019, 09:20 AM)David Horn Wrote: High on my list of extreme improbabilities is the concept that a supreme being would be so petulant and petty that failing to believe in his/her meme would make you a permanent exile from his/her heaven.  It's irrationality at its worst.
Dude, Heaven's doors aren't  open to the public. One has to please Jesus and prove themselves worthy of belonging before entering Heaven. I wonder what Queen Nancy going to do when she learns that her ticket that she purchased for herself is fake and learns that  Jesus is an asshole  doesn't care how important she thinks she is or how much she's spent making herself look good to everyone else.
My partner who happens to be Christian says the same thing. However believes that one does not have to believe in a God to find your "heaven" when you die. You just have to be a good person and he states also that there are some pretty shitty Christians who do not follow what their bible and church preaches. That basically actions speak louder than their supposed beliefs. He stated pope francis also said that those who are kind will find their "heaven" when they die and will not be separated from their loved ones as some toxic individuals preach and/or will not suffer in death. Of course I do not believe in the theory, but its the toxic connotation attached to such ideas that does disturb me. I actually like my partners interpretation of his belief. Far healthier than some who state one must be a believer and if not one will burn in hell regardless if you have lived a kind hearted selfless life. Not a very healthy belief system some have.

this thread is

Rise Of Tribalism, Racism & Bigotry Most Associated With Which Turning & Why?

what does jesus or heaven have going on in that?

or burning in hell or any of that?

please move this thread to the off-topic/trash bin.

I began this thread, why don't i have the ability to delete it once it becomes a wasteland for babbling herds in the wilderness?

if a mod does not start doing their job, im going to SPAM this shit to death.

1. I'm going to delete the spams you already made.

2. Nitpicking on the contents of a thread is beyond the pail and spamming due to being butt hurt isn't the answer.

3. Do not spam any threads. I'd have to put on moderation as a first step.

Ragnarok moderator?  Where was your Surtur ass when ppl were using hateful derogatory speech and racial slurs here?  But your ALL over the idea someone might SPAM and ready to plunge your sword DEEP into the errant user.

1. What good are you and WHERE do you stand?  

2. Do you just enjoy having the POWER to shut ppl down online according to your own morals or lack thereof?

3. Put on any first step you wish, but display your spine first when it comes to your responsibilities as an internet moderator.

4. Delete me in secret so no one sees you being challenged.  Show ME who you really are.
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