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America is a sick society
(10-08-2018, 12:32 AM)Galen Wrote:
(10-07-2018, 10:44 PM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote: Words cannot express my contempt for red state Americans who decide to vote Republican because some people protested against appointment of a judge that will destroy democracy, voting rights, and any reform we may want to make.

As the left becomes increasingly unhinged this will probably continue to get worse for the Dims.

I believe the following image says it all.

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Well, it looks like going unhinged worked very well for the Republicans.

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"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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(10-08-2018, 02:34 AM)Galen Wrote:
(10-08-2018, 02:11 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The left can get unhinged, or they can get busy.

Considering the track record of the left it seems far more likely they will become even more unhinged.  Under normal circumstances this would be true but Trump really has a gift for pushing Dims over the edge.  There are thing I don't about Trump but his effects on the left are the most entertainment I have had in years.

I get plenty of entertainment out of Trump thanks to Colbert, Meyers, Maher and Oliver.



"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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(10-08-2018, 10:49 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(10-08-2018, 02:34 AM)Galen Wrote:
(10-08-2018, 02:11 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The left can get unhinged, or they can get busy.

Considering the track record of the left it seems far more likely they will become even more unhinged.  Under normal circumstances this would be true but Trump really has a gift for pushing Dims over the edge.  There are thing I don't about Trump but his effects on the left are the most entertainment I have had in years.

Sadist!

Not really.  Its much easier to win if you can get your opponent to destroy themselves.  Once Trump realized there was no working with the Dims he started doing things that most people wouldn't care about but cause the left to go bananas.  Unlike you I would be willing to bet that Trump has read Sun Tzu.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken

If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action.   -- Ludwig von Mises
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(10-08-2018, 03:27 PM)Galen Wrote:
(10-08-2018, 10:49 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(10-08-2018, 02:34 AM)Galen Wrote:
(10-08-2018, 02:11 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: The left can get unhinged, or they can get busy.

Considering the track record of the left it seems far more likely they will become even more unhinged.  Under normal circumstances this would be true but Trump really has a gift for pushing Dims over the edge.  There are thing I don't about Trump but his effects on the left are the most entertainment I have had in years.

Sadist!

Not really.  Its much easier to win if you can get your opponent to destroy themselves.  Once Trump realized there was no working with the Dims he started doing things that most people wouldn't care about but cause the left to go bananas.  Unlike you I would be willing to bet that Trump has read Sun Tzu.

Donald Trump, from most accounts, isn't much of a reader.

Donald Trump has been good at insulting his opponents, offending the sensibilities of anyone not with him, and working contrary to the values of those who were never going to vote for him. Since environmentalists were never going to support him, he could promote ravaging the environment on behalf of special-interest groups.

This polarizes politics even more, and it is better at creating hatred than at creating concord.

We shall see how this works in the 2018 midterm elections. Nobody has ever done this before (except for Lincoln freeing the slaves, which is commendable), so it is either a consummate stratagem or consummate folly. In between? I doubt it.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(10-05-2018, 07:10 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 06:01 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Zero population growth worldwide!

Space colonization will make room for many billions of people in the solar system. Of course, population growth must slow down somewhat, as the number of people cannot grow faster than new habitats are built.

I suspect that ZPG will simply happen of its own accord.  When having many children is less desirable than having none at all, the population problem reverses, as it has in many countries already.  Space colonization?  Not soon and not in any substantial number when it starts in earnest.
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(10-05-2018, 07:10 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 06:01 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Zero population growth worldwide!

Space colonization will make room for many billions of people in the solar system. Of course, population growth must slow down somewhat, as the number of people cannot grow faster than new habitats are built.

Material would have to come from the Earth just to create room for agriculture in space, lest we are to find a way of feeding people on solar power. The material would have to come by shrinking the mass of the Earth.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(10-09-2018, 11:18 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 07:10 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(10-05-2018, 06:01 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Zero population growth worldwide!

Space colonization will make room for many billions of people in the solar system. Of course, population growth must slow down somewhat, as the number of people cannot grow faster than new habitats are built.

I suspect that ZPG will simply happen of its own accord.  When having many children is less desirable than having none at all, the population problem reverses, as it has in many countries already.  Space colonization?  Not soon and not in any substantial number when it starts in earnest.

Correct. The best way to slow population growth is to help spur growth and prosperity among the people of the world. And also to do something that red state Americans oppose: advance feminism and women's rights including the right to birth control and abortion.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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(10-09-2018, 11:18 AM)David Horn Wrote: Space colonization?  Not soon and not in any substantial number when it starts in earnest.

Definitely.  To date we have not solved the radiation thus cancer problem.  Until we do, gathering enough assets to be self sustaining is the least of problems.  We are unable to go beyond Earths protective magnetic fields save relatively short expeditions.
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(10-10-2018, 06:37 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(10-09-2018, 11:18 AM)David Horn Wrote: Space colonization?  Not soon and not in any substantial number when it starts in earnest.

Definitely.  To date we have not solved the radiation thus cancer problem.  Until we do, gathering enough assets to be self sustaining is the least of problems.  We are unable to go beyond Earths protective magnetic fields save relatively short expeditions.

Ozone layer. The vessel would need a layer of ozone between the areas for living or working and the outer shell of the satellite. A big problem: ozone is dangerously toxic and reactive.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(10-11-2018, 09:14 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(10-10-2018, 06:37 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(10-09-2018, 11:18 AM)David Horn Wrote: Space colonization?  Not soon and not in any substantial number when it starts in earnest.

Definitely.  To date we have not solved the radiation thus cancer problem.  Until we do, gathering enough assets to be self sustaining is the least of problems.  We are unable to go beyond Earths protective magnetic fields save relatively short expeditions.

Ozone layer. The vessel would need a layer of ozone between the areas for living or working and the outer shell of the satellite. A big problem: ozone is dangerously toxic and reactive.

The problem is deep space, where charge particle bursts from solar flares are actual killers.  So far, the only option is a lead-lined chamber that holds all the travelers -- assuming they can accurately identify every burst well in advance.  Unfortunately, gamma bursts, which are less deadly but still really bad, give no advanced warning.  Then again, the lead-lined chamber is only a partial protection anyway.
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