Generational Dynamics World View

[John J. Xenakis]

(12-22-2020, 08:47 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 07:41 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 22-Dec-2020 Spam

This forum is being flooded with spam.  I go to the trouble to keep
the Generational Dynamics forum free of spam.  Why isn't anyone doing
the same in this forum?  You aren't even bothering to take the simple
step of banning the spammers.  This forum is a mess.

We have no moderator or webmaster anymore.  I think Rags may be ill and unable to continue.  How we resolve that in internet-world is hard to say.

If you want to make me moderator for a few days, then I'll
clean it up.

[David Horn]

(12-22-2020, 09:06 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 08:47 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 07:41 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 22-Dec-2020 Spam

This forum is being flooded with spam.  I go to the trouble to keep the Generational Dynamics forum free of spam.  Why isn't anyone doing the same in this forum?  You aren't even bothering to take the simple step of banning the spammers.  This forum is a mess.

We have no moderator or webmaster anymore.  I think Rags may be ill and unable to continue.  How we resolve that in internet-world is hard to say.

If you want to make me moderator for a few days, then I'll clean it up.

I could do the same, but how does that happen unless it's done by the webmaster.  That is one of the cardinal rules of all forums.

[John J. Xenakis]

(12-22-2020, 10:08 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 09:06 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 08:47 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 07:41 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 22-Dec-2020 Spam

This forum is being flooded with spam.  I go to the trouble to keep the Generational Dynamics forum free of spam.  Why isn't anyone doing the same in this forum?  You aren't even bothering to take the simple step of banning the spammers.  This forum is a mess.

We have no moderator or webmaster anymore.  I think Rags may be ill and unable to continue.  How we resolve that in internet-world is hard to say.

If you want to make me moderator for a few days, then I'll clean it up.

I could do the same, but how does that happen unless it's done by the webmaster.  That is one of the cardinal rules of all forums.

Ask Rags for his password, log on to his account, and make your
account into a moderator.

I'm not sure what you mean by "webmaster," since being webmaster would
not give you moderator privileges in the forum (except by extreme
trickery with sql).

[John J. Xenakis]

** 21-Dec-2020 World View: Read the history

guest Wrote:> Read the History, Taiwan is part of China!

> China can win, it's just that there is one nuisance country that
> likes to get involved everywhere in the world!

> taiwan part of China. period!

I have read the history. In fact, I wrote a book on the history
of China:

John Xenakis is author of: "World View: War Between China and Japan:
Why America Must Be Prepared" (Generational Theory Book Series, Book
2), June 2019
Paperback: 331 pages, over 200 source references, $13.99
https://www.amazon.com/World-View-Betwee...732738637/

China's claims to Taiwan and the South China Sea are hoaxes, with
no support in history. China is annexing them the way that Adolf
Hitler annexed Austria.

As for being "one nuisance country," read the history. The United
States saved China from Japan in World War II. If the United States
hadn't saved China, then your father would be Japanese, and you would
be speaking Japanese today. Now we have to save Taiwan from China.

Also, if you lived in Taiwan instead of Beijing, your income would be
four times higher, and you would have a happier life.

The Chinese Communist Party are war criminal thugs.

• Xi Jinping

[David Horn]

(12-22-2020, 10:17 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 10:08 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 09:06 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 08:47 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(12-22-2020, 07:41 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 22-Dec-2020 Spam

This forum is being flooded with spam.  I go to the trouble to keep the Generational Dynamics forum free of spam.  Why isn't anyone doing the same in this forum?  You aren't even bothering to take the simple step of banning the spammers.  This forum is a mess.

We have no moderator or webmaster anymore.  I think Rags may be ill and unable to continue.  How we resolve that in internet-world is hard to say.

If you want to make me moderator for a few days, then I'll clean it up.

I could do the same, but how does that happen unless it's done by the webmaster.  That is one of the cardinal rules of all forums.

Ask Rags for his password, log on to his account, and make your
account into a moderator.

I'm not sure what you mean by "webmaster," since being webmaster would
not give you moderator privileges in the forum (except by extreme
trickery with sql).

I've already tried to contact Rags to no avail.  And Dan, the webmaster, is the one who made Rags a moderator.  I doubt it can be done any other way.

[John J. Xenakis]

** 22-Dec-2020 World View: Web site

(12-22-2020, 12:04 PM)David Horn Wrote: > I've already tried to contact Rags to no avail. And Dan, the
> webmaster, is the one who made Rags a moderator. I doubt it can
> be done any other way.

Then this forum is as good as dead. It's almost dead now, and looks
like a garbage dump.

Can't you reach Dan? Being a webmaster would not be much help. I
assume that he was also a forum administrator.

I suggest that you start making some phone calls.

The domain registrar is

Tucows Inc. Headquarters
96 Mowat Avenue
Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
Canada
Phone: 416-535-0123
Toll-free: 1-800-371-6992
General email: info@tucows.com

The web site host is:

A Small Orange LLC
131 Orange Street Durham, NC 27701 United States
1-919-408-7600
http://www.asmallorange.com

Try calling them, tell them the problem, and ask them what to do.
Maybe they know how to reach "Dan" the administrator.

[John J. Xenakis]

** 22-Dec-2020 World View: Webmaster

Here's another possibility. The original founder of this forum has an
account called "Webmaster". Is that what you mean by "webmaster"? I
assume not, since that account hasn't been active since September
2018.

Anyway, you can go to his profile page

http://generational-theory.com/forum/user-1.html

and send him an e-mail message. As I recall, his name was Sam, and he
probably still has administrator privileges, so he could solve the
problem.

[Bob Butler 54]

I sent an e-mail to Webmaster (Sam) explaining the problem and describing John and Dave's willingness to moderate. I added my name as well.

According to the profile, he indeed still is an administrator.

[Bob Butler 54]

(12-22-2020, 07:33 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

Guest Wrote:All I know is there's going to have to be a revolt or this country will resemble the Soviet Union at the height of Stalin's tyrannical reign.

It really is astonishing to watch what's going on.

We have the news being censored by twitter, facebook, cnn, msnbc, nyt, wapost, and so forth, who are bragging about how they used censorship and deceit to manipulate the election and win it for Biden.  Now that they election is over, they haven't stopped.  After controlling the election outcome, they've tasted the erotic thrill of power, and
they're not going to give it up, and will extend their censorship in other directions.

We have president-elect Biden still hiding out in his basement, even though the election is over, and when he comes out of hiding for a brief statement, the signs of dementia are obvious.

We have an incoming cabinet determined entirely by ethnicity and gender.  There isn't even any pretense that these people know what they're doing.  Their only qualifications are skin color and breast size.  I saw one of them on tv yesterday bragging about how excited she was to have this job because she's going to going to bring about
the lunatic green new deal.  She obviously had no clue what she was talking about.

Trump always hires someone based on skills, and if he doesn't perform, then he hears, "You're fired!"  Skin color and breast size are irrelevant for him.  Trump's team is still managing the country, so everything is ok for now, but who knows what will happen a month from now, when the lunatics will be taking over?

How will this end?  I've answered that question many times.  It will end with an existential threat to America, such as a Chinese attack on American assets.  This will immediately unite the country behind the president who, we hope, will appoint a surrogate to run the country.  Perhaps Trump will come back in that role.

At any rate, the drift toward Stalinist Communism will be stopped at that point, and the country will unite to face the existential threat.

I would like to see a link to the bragging. Most of the organizations are concerned with the recent Republican habit of lying.  I guess that there was voter fraud in the recent election would stand as an example.  Ideologues who want to believe it true were fooled.  The courts were not.  Your habit of making up lies to support your worldview seems too blatant to go without asking for a factcheck.

The coughs were blatant.  The signs of dementia were not.  You have to want really hard for them to be there, and be in the habit of seeing what you want to see.  I would have preferred someone younger in the Democratic primaries, but didn’t get it.

Trump seems to hire on basis of loyalty and nepotism.  Biden’s people are distinctly professionals at what they are being made responsible for.  Your ideological bias is absurd.  As long as you keep it, you will remain a joke.  Open your eyes.

The old values of elitism, racism and autocratic preference have indeed been quashed by the recent election.  I anticipate that democracy, human rights and equality will triumph, as they have come the crisis since the English Civil War.  The old values will be diminished.

Trump is fond of how Putin is running Russia, which is a poor man’s imitation of the Stalinist Communist style.  It will be stopped in the US on January 20th.  I hope the country will indeed unite, but there are a lot of ideologues behind the pseudo Stalinist Communist threat.  If you really want to see a Stalinist Communist threat, look in the mirror.

[John J. Xenakis]

** 22-Dec-2020 World View: Press conference

I watched Joe Biden's press conference this afternoon. I didn't see
any signs of dementia this time. This is honestly a big relief. I
have not been looking forward to seeing the country led by someone
with dementia.

[Warren Dew]

(12-22-2020, 07:33 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: At any rate, the drift toward Stalinist Communism will be stopped at
that point, and the country will unite to face the existential threat.

You seem very confident that the Stalinist Communism won't itself be the threat?

[Bob Butler 54]

Eric has set up a new Facebook public group with a good number of people already joining.  It is at The Fourth Turning discussion group.

[Snowflake1996]

(12-23-2020, 01:17 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Eric has set up a new Facebook public group with a good number of people already joining.  It is at The Fourth Turning discussion group.

Could I get the group’s name? I’d like to join.

[Bob Butler 54]

(12-23-2020, 03:14 PM)Snowflake1996 Wrote:

(12-23-2020, 01:17 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Eric has set up a new Facebook public group with a good number of people already joining.  It is at The Fourth Turning discussion group.

Could I get the group’s name? I’d like to join.

It is ever so creatively called "The Fourth Turning discussion group".  Just follow the links.

[John J. Xenakis]

** 23-Dec-2020 World View: Death of a forum

What are you saying? Is this forum dead?

I can set up a special "Fourth Turning" section of the Generational
Dynamics forum if there's any interest. I'm already hosting the
"Fourth Turning Forum archive" from the last forum.

But is anyone trying to save this forum? What happened when
you tried to reach Sam, the original administrator?

I gave you the phone number of the web site host. Did anyone call
them? Do you want me to call them?

Somebody is paying the monthly bill for hosting this web site. Do you
know who that person is?

That person might be able to give me cPanel access to the web site
server. If so, then I can go into the mysql database and solve this
problem.

Does anyone care, or is this forum simply going to die?

[Bob Butler 54]

(12-23-2020, 07:27 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: What are you saying?  Is this forum dead?

I can set up a special "Fourth Turning" section of the Generational Dynamics forum if there's any interest.  I'm already hosting the "Fourth Turning Forum archive" from the last forum.

But is anyone trying to save this forum?  What happened when you tried to reach Sam, the original administrator?

I gave you the phone number of the web site host.  Did anyone call them?  Do you want me to call them?

Somebody is paying the monthly bill for hosting this web site.  Do you know who that person is?

That person might be able to give me cPanel access to the web site server.  If so, then I can go into the mysql database and solve this problem.

Does anyone care, or is this forum simply going to die?

I tried an e-mail to Sam.  No response yet.  I was going to give him a few more days before calling MyBB.  Eric was less patient than I am, apparently, and set up the alternative Facebook forum.  As a number of people have already become members, I am not willing to try to fight it.

I do prefer a forum format.  If you set up a section of the Generational Dynamics site, I might visit and see how it takes off.  But I'm not currently intending to fight to get the MyBB forum alive, but will keep half an eye out to see if anyone else does.

I guess the question is if anyone is willing to get either a MyBB, Facebook or a Generational Dynamics forum set up and running, and which of the three takes off.  So far Eric's is the only one started, and he has gone far enough that I am not tempted to compete with it.

What I would prefer is the lack or red blue bias in letting people in or moderation while shutting down the spam.

My Star Trek forum based sim is also having a spam problem.  Much the same spam.  They are currently in the process of shutting down their forum and moving things to Discord.

[John J. Xenakis]

** 24-Dec-2020 World View: New Fourth Turning Community Forum

(12-23-2020, 10:57 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: > I do prefer a forum format. If you set up a section of the
> Generational Dynamics site, I might visit and see how it takes
> off. But I'm not currently intending to fight to get the MyBB
> forum alive, but will keep half an eye out to see if anyone else
> does.

> I guess the question is if anyone is willing to get either a MyBB,
> Facebook or a Generational Dynamics forum set up and running, and
> which of the three takes off. So far Eric's is the only one
> started, and he has gone far enough that I am not tempted to
> compete with it.

For anyone interested, I added a new "Fourth Turning Community"
category to the Generational Dynamics forum:

http://gdxforum.com/forum/

I've created one topic in that category, "Fourth Turning Forum."

For the time being, I've set permissions so that you can post a message
to this forum without registering.

However, I recommend that you register, since that gives you
additional capabilities, such as editing your posts, or creating a new
topic.

[John J. Xenakis]

** 24-Dec-2020 World View: Earning respect

John Wrote:> Are you sure? If the economist has the right skin color, he could
> get a job in Biden's cabinet.

Bob Butler" Wrote:> This is an example of your ideological bias. Biden has brought in
> experts in the field they are supposed to oversee, as opposed to
> Trump who appointed by nepotism and loyalty. If you don't make an
> honest attempt to understand the opposition, which generally has
> valid reasons why they believe as they do, you will convince only
> those who are already bought into your perspective.

Burner Prime" Wrote:> There is some validity to this. I watched the Biden press
> conference in its entirety, the one John referenced a few days
> ago. I was really shocked at how well he did. And further, I was
> surprised at how well he fended off the many media questions
> designed to attack Trump & Republicans on their way out.

> Time will tell if his Administration posts yield an effective
> team. Maybe Biden was just amped up on drugs and on his dementia
> upswing. Maybe it was a one-off. Time will tell, but that presser
> was a win for him.

I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no respect for Biden, as he's spent
the last year hiding out in his basement, only answering pre-approved
questions by pre-approved reporters, and constantly showing signs of
dementia. The contrast is enormous with Trump who, every day, several
times a day, vigorously answered tough questions by all reporters.

Biden has given one and only one press conference where he seemed
coherent and competent, and that was the one last week, which I
described as a relief to me. But Biden will have to do a lot more to
earn my respect. Given Biden's performance in the last year, the
people with ideological bias are not the ones who criticize Biden, but
are the ones who give him a pass for his pathetic, incompetent
performance in the last year.

The remark about the economist was a joke, but it's based on the
observation that while Trump always talked about the competence of his
staff, Biden only talks about their skin color and gender. Once
again, Trump gets my respect for that and Biden does not. I respect
people who are competent. Skin color and gender are irrelevant to me
and apparently to Trump, but those are the only things that matter to
Biden.

As for loyalty, let's wait and see if how the thin-skinned Biden
treats anyone on his staff who disagrees with him.

As for nepotism, Trump's children went to the Mideast and negotiated
widely heralded peace agreements between Israel with UAE, Bahrain,
Sudan and Algeria. Biden's children went to Ukraine and China and
traded and used influence-peddling to pocket millions of dollars.
Furthermore, Biden's son Hunter is deeply embroiled in a criminal
investigation for influence peddling, money laundering and tax
evasion. That's a big contrast with Trump's children.

When Trump began running for president, I had no respect for him, and
I criticized him and mocked him. Trump earned my respect. Biden has
been cowering in his basement for a year and covering up his son's
crimes. The only ideological bias is by people who give Biden a pass
no matter how pathetic and incompetent he appears. Biden has not
earned my respect. When he does, I'll let you know.

[pbrower2a]

(12-24-2020, 08:47 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 24-Dec-2020 World View: Earning respect

John Wrote:>   Are you sure?  If the economist has the right skin color, he could
>   get a job in Biden's cabinet.

Bob Butler Wrote:>   This is an example of your ideological bias.  Biden has brought in
>   experts in the field they are supposed to oversee, as opposed to
>   Trump who appointed by nepotism and loyalty.  If you don't make an
>   honest attempt to understand the opposition, which generally has
>   valid reasons why they believe as they do, you will convince only
>   those who are already bought into your perspective.  

Burner Prime Wrote:>   There is some validity to this. I watched the Biden press
>   conference in its entirety, the one John referenced a few days
>   ago. I was really shocked at how well he did. And further, I was
>   surprised at how well he fended off the many media questions
>   designed to attack Trump & Republicans on their way out.

>   Time will tell if his Administration posts yield an effective
>   team. Maybe Biden was just amped up on drugs and on his dementia
>   upswing. Maybe it was a one-off. Time will tell, but that presser
>   was a win for him.

I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no respect for Biden, as he's spent
the last year hiding out in his basement, only answering pre-approved
questions by pre-approved reporters, and constantly showing signs of
dementia.  The contrast is enormous with Trump who, every day, several
times a day, vigorously answered tough questions by all reporters.

Hiding from COVID-19... refusing to answer loaded questions that he could expect from some 'journalistic' entities , and showing evidence of a stutter. Donald Trump has made reckless appearances in public, and some of those became super-spreader events; this indicates his contempt for human life. Donald Trump also shows signs of never growing up with his vituperative tweets and his faulting of people who catch him in a lie.  I concede that he is more open to the media; if something has an inconvenient answer for him he lies.

Quote:Biden has given one and only one press conference where he seemed
coherent and competent, and that was the one last week, which I
described as a relief to me.  But Biden will have to do a lot more to
earn my respect.  Given Biden's performance in the last year, the
people with ideological bias are not the ones who criticize Biden, but
are the ones who give him a pass for his pathetic, incompetent
performance in the last year.

Well, if he seems less in dementia, then maybe he isn't... or he is getting some good medication. He ran as competent and as spirited a campaign as was possible with COVID-19 stalking him... and staling everyone else. 

Quote:The remark about the economist was a joke, but it's based on the
observation that while Trump always talked about the competence of his
staff, Biden only talks about their skin color and gender.  Once
again, Trump gets my respect for that and Biden does not.  I respect
people who are competent.  Skin color and gender are irrelevant to me
and apparently to Trump, but those are the only things that matter to
Biden.

His staff has typically had something other than competence (the word used as loosely as is possible) to talk about: either deciding that he was an incompetent fraud or that someone has been indicted. Trump's ideal staff is selected to the extent possible for blind obedience. 

Quote:As for loyalty, let's wait and see if how the thin-skinned Biden
treats anyone on his staff who disagrees with him.

Everyone needs someone capable of saying no (as in, "no, you are not buying any boat!", "no, you are not going to the bar to drink away your paycheck and hook up with some loose woman", "no you are not going to watch or keep pornography in this house"). No person can pose as the arbiter of truth even if he is the Great and Infallible Donald Trump. This is the fellow who dispensed quack medical advice!   

Quote:As for nepotism, Trump's children went to the Mideast and negotiated
widely heralded peace agreements between Israel with UAE, Bahrain,
Sudan and Algeria.  Biden's children went to Ukraine and China and
traded and used influence-peddling to pocket millions of dollars.
Furthermore, Biden's son Hunter is deeply embroiled in a criminal
investigation for influence peddling, money laundering and tax
evasion.  That's a big contrast with Trump's children.

Would you trust Trump's kids to do anything not basic? The UAE and Israel share a common enemy in Iran, and the old "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" applies. We shall see how Trump's children fare in the legal process. 

Quote:When Trump began running for president, I had no respect for him, and
I criticized him and mocked him.  Trump earned my respect.  Biden has
been cowering in his basement for a year and covering up his son's
crimes.  The only ideological bias is by people who give Biden a pass
no matter how pathetic and incompetent he appears.  Biden has not
earned my respect.  When he does, I'll let you know.

Anyone is going to do something right at some time. Even Hitler stood for good roads, for protection of animals, for physical fitness, and against smoking. Big deal! Lots of people who believe in such things live in Utah, if you get the connection. (Hint: I bragged to a physician about having "Mormon lungs". Many Americans have been cowering from COVID-19, and about 330,000 are dead because they got the sort of respiratory infection that supposedly does not happen in the First World.

[pbrower2a]

By the way -- I gave up completely on Donald Trump when he mocked the handicapped. I remember hearing jokes about the handicapped (except for moron jokes) from people my age when I was about ten years old. Most people outgrow such garbage (and it really is cruel) when they are about ten years old. Around that age, one either finds those repugnant or someone is able to explain why you don't do them (Dad tells you that the fellow in a wheelchair is a disabled veteran who served his country heroically, and there but for the Grace of God go you ten years from now if we get into a war with the Soviet Union. I may judge harshly people who hurt themselves through their own follies such as drugs, alcoholism, extreme obesity, and criminal behaviors.. but I fault nobody who did nothing to fault himself.

I have a neurological disorder that makes me little more than my intellect. It has messed me up as can a drug or alcohol habit except to not put my life at risk. No, I'm not crazy; I simply can't enjoy what many other people enjoy. I could never attend a rock concert. Yes, it is genetic. I got a double dose, as my late parents both showed signs of being on the autistic spectrum, and it is probably a good thing that I never had children; they would be at a high risk of institutionalization.